Originally posted by Blue_RoomAdelaide 93 is widely available because it was broadcast to a contest winner in Australia. The tape came from there, not from crew or practice or anything like that. Just like the Stockholm 92 tape, same thing, came from the contest winner. They had a show broadcast into their homes. They got to keep a tape of the show.
U2 archives all of their audio and a great deal of their video. 99.9 % of it will never see the light of day. They use it to check to see what is working, what they can do to improve the show and in case they need to go back to it to remember a particular event or check something they may want to do in the future. They do film some things for practice or if they need additional shots for a project. But most of it is just for their archives.
I think a few of the audio recordings could make a box set or something down the road. But most of the video would not be deemed suitable for any type of official release.
Originally posted by Blue_Room Just like the Stockholm 92 tape, same thing, came from the contest winner. They had a show broadcast into their homes. They got to keep a tape of the show.
U2 archives all of their audio and a great deal of their video. 99.9 % of it will never see the light of day.
Originally posted by redguitaronfire[..]
Well, I don't know, because stockholm is available in two different versions, the sepia one (which was the first) and the full color. Then, not all the pro-shot Zoos came from contest-winners, try Washington '92 for size. Or Mexico City '92 too.
About the 99.9%, well, they did kept locked the New Year's Eve show and released it offically last year, but it was available for 16 years. Recently I've found better recordings, sometimes sounboards, for shows that previously were available on audience recordings, and the Salome 3-CD set was improved up to 7 discs also last year (and everyone thoght the 3 cd set was all you could get from Hansa Ton sessions), so I would give a little faith to the future.
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Originally posted by Blue_Room[..]
LOL, the Stockholm one is not different. The sepia one is a higher generation and it lost its color as a result. Because John (the contest winner) dubbed his cassette so much it wore down. Someone still had a better generation of it from him that still had the color and put it on DVD finally.
So are you a friend of John's or what? Do you realize it takes the same effort to film a PPV concert than a contest winner one? So filming crew can also release on their own.
Originally posted by Blue_Room[...]
Plus, I never said all the pro shots came from contest winners. I said the reason Adelaide 93 surfaced is because of the contest winner in addition to Stockholm.
But you seem to believe the only other option is waiting until an officcial release...
Originally posted by Blue_Room[..]
Where is there a pro shot of Mexico City 92? Mexico City 97 was also broadcast on TV prior to official release. Thats why that was/is out there.
Stream the U2 torrents to find Zoo TV, nov-25-1992. Hint: it's not the complete show, starts from One on. Another hint: 4 Zoos from Mexico City were actually recorded because ALL were meant to be broadcast. Bootlegs come from the company who filmed it, though, of course, U2 must have a copy. Footage was used later on TV specials, plus interviews with Adam and Edge, and a press conference.
And about 97, which I didn't metioned by the way, both shows were filmed in Mexico and the announcement it would be into DVD came at the same time they were boradcasted.
Originally posted by Blue_Room[..]
What I'm trying to say is, the examples you have given have leaked because other sources got ahold of them by other means. They didnt come from the U2 archive. They have recorded most of their shows since 1982. That is alot of audio. Thats why I say 99.9 % of it will never see the light of day. Because even if they did release a few things someday, it will be a very small amount in comparison to what exists.
Here we go again: those examples are to tell you not to expect U2 to release offically that material. BUT it doesn't mean it will never "see the daylight". Further than Rattle and Hum there was nothing else out from the Joshua Tree Tour and now you can actually get the whole gig. You can say you want it on DVD or in double-soundboard-audio discs... but to be honest, what company should edit hundreds of DVD's, specially when setlists are pretty much the same? Wouldn't it be smarter to release a new record and play a new tour?
But, to finish this and not to bore you, what I meant was that when U2 finally released The New Year's Eve concert, for instance, it was meaningless for most die-hard fans: It already was available (that's the key word in my former post, man: you don't need to wait, in will be available before). So, don't lose faith baby...