GEN
Active topics
  1. At our 25th weddinganniversary the band played With or Without You.
    Everybody enjoyed it very much.
  2. mmh... I'm pretty sure this was the first song I finally liked of Achtung Baby after several days (weeks?) of only liking Acrobat when it came out, and also I'm absolutely sure that listening to it live (on the Freddy Mercury Tribute Concert) was the moment I finally said "oh, fuck it... this is great!" and accepted embraced the whole album (and the whole new U2 era).

    So, no... I don't understand why someone would find this song flat

    032
  4. 'Until the End of the World' was the only song I liked from the A side of Achtung Baby in the beginning. Everything else made me want to hurl. I wasn't ready for the new sound.
  5. Originally posted by Ross1441:[..]
    Everything on Aching Baby sounded flat and lacking in dynamics; end of the world was just the most severe example of this. I think the whole album was rather poorly mixed. #PossibleControversy

    I thought the OST version was fun. And for the record, I think it's stupendous live. Never gets old.
    No controversy there for me. The final 3 are the best songs in the album, and they sound the best too. The sound on UTEOTW and specially in EBTTRT is amazingly poor.
  6. Originally posted by BigGiRL:[..]
    ...for me it is still an open question if the singer actually reached for the "wave," or the "one" he wanted to destroy... (and then which wave was it? probably that of sorrow...but it's not a 100% safe bet...)

    Indeed, "pure genius" the fact that it's open for multiple interpretations... and that's another argument why the song keeps coming back...
    According to Bono, UTEOTW is the story of Judas Iscariot and his betrayal of Jesus. He intentionally swapped "we ate the food" to "we broke the bread" during live performances starting from Elevation (I think) to emphasize this message.

    That being said, in the bible Judas is one of the 12 people that followed Jesus around when he did his teachings, but eventually betrayed Jesus in return for payment in silver coins. His act of betrayal was a kiss, which signaled which man to arrest. After his actions, which results in Jesus's crucifixion, Judas is overcome with remorse and kills himself.

    Personally, I think "waves of regret" and "waves of joy" are incredibly symbolic because as much as Judas regrets what he did, Jesus predicted his betrayal several times in scripture and even mentions that the betrayal was necessary for the resurrection to happen. Thus, the "waves of joy" in knowing that Jesus was still able to fulfill his duty. "I reached out for the one I tried to destroy" may refer to Judas's change in heart posture towards Jesus.


    Another interesting note is that most Christians tend to see Jesus as a calm and collected person, but he actually did spend a lot of time talking about "the end of the world", which one could interpret as his own death.
  7. Originally posted by Bloodraven:mmh... I'm pretty sure this was the first song I finally liked of Achtung Baby after several days (weeks?) of only liking Acrobat when it came out, and also I'm absolutely sure that listening to it live (on the Freddy Mercury Tribute Concert) was the moment I finally said "oh, fuck it... this is great!" and accepted embraced the whole album (and the whole new U2 era).

    So, no... I don't understand why someone would find this song flat
    They played the Freddie Mercury tribute concert?
  8. To me is the whole thing, the intro from the outro, the subject.... "I'm the devil, see my horns"
  9. It was a satellite link up.
    The show (Freddy's) was broadcasted live and U2 joined via satellite from wherever they were playing that night with UTEOTW.
  10. What a song!

    (Had wanted to make this gif for years!)

  11. I love how epic the song is and how dramatic. It's a perfect live set piece. I agree that it hasn't been equally effective on every tour, but when it was effective (ZooTV and Elevation in particular) it just blew the roof off whatever arena they were playing it in. I agree that the noisy, Bono/Edge outro performance from the Elevation tour is awesome!

    The intro with Bono's distorted voice and the drums is goose-bump inducing! It was one of the first songs I latched onto when Achtung Baby was new. I loved hearing an aggressive guitar riff like that in a U2 song (same with "The Fly") and the heavy distortion/feedback outro. It also has a great Edge solo! There's so much to like about this song, and I didn't even mention the cool lyrics! I could go on and on.
U2start is run by fans for fans. Help us reduce personal costs. Consider to make a donation to support us.
U2start is run by fans for fans. Help us reduce personal costs. Consider to make a donation to support us.
U2start is run by fans for fans. Help us reduce personal costs. Consider to make a donation to support us.
U2start is run by fans for fans. Help us reduce personal costs. Consider to make a donation to support us.