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2015-07-31 - New York
 Tour: Innocence and Experience tour
Songs played: 27
Audio recordings: 1
  2. Thoughts:

    Show was very very good in the first half. Best one yet. Crowd was into it and the band was tight. Second half started ok with invisible and even better and mysterious ways always makes me nauseous. Saw the guitar come out for elevation and lost all enthusiasm for the show. Ordinary love with gaga was actually close to the highlight of the second half for me. Every breaking wave was nice and crowd sung loud. Back to bullet straight after suggested a DVD show to me. Crowd loved with or without you as usual. Bono read most of streets off the prompter, another pointer to some sort of DVD show for me. Streets with the mostly correct lyrics and a loud crowd was my second half highlight. Noticed edge had something on the end of his guitar in the first half every couple songs that looked like a camera too, never noticed before. Show needed bad or 40 and suffered from it.

    Highlights

    Gloria
    Whole first half
    Streets
    Invisible
    Ordinary love

    Overall show ranking now

    Chicago 5
    New York 1
    New York 4
    Boston 3
    New York 5
    New York 2
    New York 3
    Chicago 4
    Toronto 1
  3. Originally posted by ahn1991:[..]
    Album sales and other merchandise are how artists make money. Tours, believe it or not, are not at all profitable.
    I think you're mistaken lol...

    Most album sales and even royalties go to labels so cover the costs of promotion, distribution, studio time, music videos etc. Even then they barely recoup that money which is why so many artists end up in debt. They sign shitty contracts in the beginning and any money they don't get back falls to them.

    Touring is where they're able to sell not only concert tickets at inflated prices but also MERCHANDISE. That's where acts get their money. Renting out a venue is a fortune and ticket sales mostly just cover that, but merchandise...same way a movie theatre makes no money selling tickets for movies. They make their money selling popcorn and drinks.
  5. I must say, if this was the only show I went to for the whole tour I'd be somewhat annoyed...
  6. I'm dead serious.

    At least as of 2013. I did extensive research for a speech regarding the RIAA's anit-piracy laws and how artists are adapting to the rapid availability of music online. I used U2 as the model of the direction artists must take if they wish to survive in the new industry. U2 makes the majority of their profits from touring. I talked about the ways U2 has made sure 360 was profitable, mainly focusing on the Claw's design which maximized available GA space and lower tiered pricing to ensure shows would be sold out. U2 is an exception, not the rule. Most artists make much more money through album sales (physical and digital). Taylor Swift was my prime example of that model because her tour profits were negligible compared to her album sales.

    I also talked about profits from radio playtime and potentially though streaming sites such as Spotify, which was still new back then while Pandora was the predominant streaming service. Another strategy artists employ is to crank out material constantly. Most hip hop/pop artists will do this. With U2 we're used to seeing one album every 5-6 years, but most artists will be constantly pumping out material. They may not always be full albums, but they will pump out singles, EPs, etc. They may have enough material to release a full LP, but in the interest of marketing it makes more financial sense to split that album and market it as several EPs, then re-issue it as a full album.

    Another thing to think about is that touring has HUGE start-up costs. Venues and crews must be booked well in advanced. Plus, there is stage design and construction that can take countless man-hours. All of this is done at the risk of not knowing if people will actually show up to your show. One way to offset this is to perform a festival tour. Festival tours are nice because all of the muscle work is already done and all the artist has to do is show up.
  7. Now i'm off to work, punching my trainee in the Neck, just for the Fun of it. No, she does good, thankfully.
  8. Originally posted by ahn1991:[..]
    I'm dead serious.

    At least as of 2013. I did extensive research for a speech regarding the RIAA's anit-piracy laws and how artists are adapting to the rapid availability of music online. I used U2 as the model of the direction artists must take if they wish to survive in the new industry. U2 makes the majority of their profits from touring. I talked about the ways U2 has made sure 360 was profitable, mainly focusing on the Claw's design which maximized available GA space and lower tiered pricing to ensure shows would be sold out. U2 is an exception, not the rule. Most artists make much more money through album sales (physical and digital). Taylor Swift was my prime example of that model because her tour profits were negligible compared to her album sales.

    I also talked about profits from radio playtime and potentially though streaming sites such as Spotify, which was still new back then while Pandora was the predominant streaming service. Another strategy artists employ is to crank out material constantly. Most hip hop/pop artists will do this. With U2 we're used to seeing one album every 5-6 years, but most artists will be constantly pumping out material. They may not always be full albums, but they will pump out singles, EPs, etc. They may have enough material to release a full LP, but in the interest of marketing it makes more financial sense to split that album and market it as several EPs, then re-issue it as a full album.

    Another thing to think about is that touring has HUGE start-up costs. Venues and crews must be booked well in advanced. Plus, there is stage design and construction that can take countless man-hours. All of this is done at the risk of not knowing if people will actually show up to your show. One way to offset this is to perform a festival tour. Festival tours are nice because all of the muscle work is already done and all the artist has to do is show up.
    You must be drunk! Please, just be drunk!
  9. this tour is starting to get to me...E stage, after mysterious ways, how have we not seen a in gods country, trip through your wires, one tree hill run?? Vertigo LA1, and I didn't get to see the at all on Elevation, I believe they broke out zoo baby on screen into zoo station, the fly and mways, lost my shit. first show was zoo, everyone went ballistic ...why has the band never revisited second side of JT or JT tour run of songs since...unfortunately disappointing.
  11. How ever, i have to go. CU Tonight.
  12. It may be different now, but just think about it. If touring was so profitable and album sales not so, why are global tours so rare and why do artists fight tooth and nail to keep media offline? Taylor Swifts most recent comments about Apple Music pretty much show that she knows this is where the money will be coming from
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