1. Originally posted by Caledonia:[..]
    I can remember keyboard player, Rick Wakeman panning the likes of U2 and one of my other loves, Simple Minds down the years (who have also mixed politics with their music and took some heated criticism for it at times, particularly in the mid to late 1980's with their own Amnesty International involvement and campaigning to free Nelson Mandela and put a stop to apartheid), and I just remember thinking to myself... he's a bit of a plonker.

    As Adam says in R&H about music and politics not mixing... "I think that's kinda bullshit.".

    The best music for me is music with blood in it. Definitely one of the reasons I adore U2. Imho it's that blood, their hunger and their anger that keep pushing the band to keep doing what they're doing all these years later.

    Some of the best songs ever written imho are protest songs... Summertime Blues, or Sun City.

    Sure there's a place for music without politics, nothing wrong with that, the world would be a dull place otherwise. But equally there is also a place for music and politics to mix, and they absolutely should do.
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    Long live The Big Music!
  2. See Bullet from Dreamfest.

    Amazing.
  3. now this is really weird..........

  4. Agreed. The way that they have transformed Bullet in 2015 and now with this Trump dialogue ("inside it's America") is brilliant. A powerful song now even more hard-hitting.
  5. Originally posted by bpt3:[..]
    Agreed. The way that they have transformed Bullet in 2015 and now with this Trump dialogue ("inside it's America") is brilliant. A powerful song now even more hard-hitting.
  6. SO GOOD!!!!

    Is this the first time U2 has directly taken a stance in a US Presidential election? I've seen U2 fans get so worked up over this, but if you really think about U2 has been more politically sharp during their ZooTV era.
  7. Originally posted by ahn1991:[..]
    SO GOOD!!!!

    Is this the first time U2 has directly taken a stance in a US Presidential election? I've seen U2 fans get so worked up over this, but if you really think about U2 has been more politically sharp during their ZooTV era.
    They did have a go at Bush on ZooTV, but difference IMO was it made its point and moved on to the music. I think the issues are a part of what U2 is and I'm all for it, but I must be the only one who feels the Trump spiel during Bullet went on way too long and diminished the music a bit. Just me, I know... I dig the political statement, I really do, but I also want a concert, not a rally. I do get it though. Especially this close to the election.
  8. Originally posted by blueeyedboy:[..]
    They did have a go at Bush on ZooTV, but difference IMO was it made its point and moved on to the music. I think the issues are a part of what U2 is and I'm all for it, but I must be the only one who feels the Trump spiel during Bullet went on way too long and diminished the music a bit. Just me, I know... I dig the political statement, I really do, but I also want a concert, not a rally. I do get it though. Especially this close to the election.
    I thought the rant it was a bit too long yeah, mostly becuase they kept replaying the trump "reply" fragments twice.. Not sure why they choose to do that.

    I love the I+E version of Bullet muuuch more. But on the other hand I'm glad they are at least sharing my view on how stupid Trump is.
  9. Me three. It went on for too long yeah.
  10. I loved it but I'm pretty sure that's the last time that version of Bullet will be played, back to the normal version for the next legs.

    Hopefully. Especially after what happened today/last night.
  11. Originally posted by Welsh_Edge:I loved it but I'm pretty sure that's the last time that version of Bullet will be played, back to the normal version for the next legs.

    Hopefully. Especially after what happened today/last night.
    Yeah. Big day. A decade old video goes viral and Wikileaks.

    " it's important to have both a "public" and "private" position on certain issues"