1. Originally posted by peatiedog:I AM ASHAMED TO BE AMERICAN TODAY! WHAT KIND OF WORLD IS THIS WHEN SOMEONE SHOWS THEIR TRUE DESPICABLE CHARACTER AND STILL IS ELECTED TO BE LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD?
    this emperor with no clothes will be the worst thing that has ever happened to the WORLD!
    I AM MOURNING.
    Clinton is just as bad. Neither are ideal, but Clinton is a liar and a should-be felon. There weren't any ideal options.
  2. This is true
  3. Originally posted by CMIPalaeo:Well, the President isn't the whole US government - no matter how Donald Trump may have blustered on like that on the campaign trail. There are still other politicians and other branches of government. As ashamed and concerned I am about that deranged asshole being the president, it's not as though everything that happens in the US now will be 100% Trump Approved - the president isn't our only politician, after all, and we decide who the other ones are, not him.

    That said - I'm really worried about the next four years. This wasn't the world I was expecting or hoping to be leaving college in very soon... looking for a job and graduate work in an academic field where there isn't very much work to be had, living on my own in the real world for the first time. I can't see things getting any easier or better now.
    The frightening thing is that Trump has now control of all the other branches of government. The Senate, the House, he's going to appoint at least 3 supreme court justices. He has all the power to do what he wants.
  4. I wouldn't get too worried if I was legally living in the U.S. I genuinely don't think any of his policies will be racist unless you consider tightening the borders, getting rid of illegal immigrants and lowering the number of people migrating as racist. His no Muslim policy would be a non starter because it would require someone to admit to it in the first place (that would be racist if he did impose this though) . His biggest challenge though is making the books balance he's talking about tax cuts which sounds great but there is question marks over how that would work. I do believe his intention to create more jobs and think he's got good experience doing that. He might be rich but I'm sure a lot of people working for him are regular hard working people like myself, as long as people are getting paid fairly and jobs are getting created then thumbs up. Btw I've got doubts as to how he can achieve a lot of the stuff he says he will but we'll see. Having watched and listened to the guy I'd say he was perhaps more ignorant than a down right racist. I don't think he wants to see anyone of any race, ethnicity or gender suffer, especially those already living in the U.S. lets see what happens anyway, if he proves to be this person he's portrayed to be then people will have a right to be upset, but I'm very doubtful he's that much of an extremist.
  5. Lets just hope the upcoming speeches from Clinton and Obama follow the tone of Trumps speech and get a jump on a healing process. I hope one of the first people Trump reaches out across the lines to is Sanders
  6. Originally posted by deanallison:I wouldn't get too worried if I was legally living in the U.S. I genuinely don't think any of his policies will be racist unless you consider tightening the borders, getting rid of illegal immigrants and lowering the number of people migrating as racist. His no Muslim policy would be a non starter because it would require someone to admit to it in the first place (that would be racist if he did impose this though) . His biggest challenge though is making the books balance he's talking about tax cuts which sounds great but there is question marks over how that would work. I do believe his intention to create more jobs and think he's got good experience doing that. He might be rich but I'm sure a lot of people working for him are regular hard working people like myself, as long as people are getting paid fairly and jobs are getting created then thumbs up. Btw I've got doubts as to how he can achieve a lot of the stuff he says he will but we'll see. Having watched and listened to the guy I'd say he was perhaps more ignorant than a down right racist. I don't think he wants to see anyone of any race, ethnicity or gender suffer, especially those already living in the U.S. lets see what happens anyway, if he proves to be this person he's portrayed to be then people will have a right to be upset, but I'm very doubtful he's that much of an extremist.
  7. Originally posted by deanallison:I wouldn't get too worried if I was legally living in the U.S. I genuinely don't think any of his policies will be racist unless you consider tightening the borders, getting rid of illegal immigrants and lowering the number of people migrating as racist. His no Muslim policy would be a non starter because it would require someone to admit to it in the first place (that would be racist if he did impose this though) . His biggest challenge though is making the books balance he's talking about tax cuts which sounds great but there is question marks over how that would work. I do believe his intention to create more jobs and think he's got good experience doing that. He might be rich but I'm sure a lot of people working for him are regular hard working people like myself, as long as people are getting paid fairly and jobs are getting created then thumbs up. Btw I've got doubts as to how he can achieve a lot of the stuff he says he will but we'll see. Having watched and listened to the guy I'd say he was perhaps more ignorant than a down right racist. I don't think he wants to see anyone of any race, ethnicity or gender suffer, especially those already living in the U.S. lets see what happens anyway, if he proves to be this person he's portrayed to be then people will have a right to be upset, but I'm very doubtful he's that much of an extremist.
    Nicely put
  8. Originally posted by bartajax:[..]
    Of course not, but I hope some people with power and with brains will speak out and will do everything they can to make it 4 terrible years for Trump and everyone who voted for them.For example, he is a business man, do you really think he will bring back jobs from Asia? People seem to believe that kind of shit, it's just so stupid.

    By the way, I think Clinton is a terrible candidate too, but at least she has some dignity.

    Another thing that would frighten me if I was a well-thinking, progressive American: The whole system is now Republican. Let's go stop LGBT's and women rights, let's stop abortion, let's give everyone a gun. In other words go 40 years back in time with those religious idiots.


    I'm the first to admit when I'm an idiot.
  9. Originally posted by deanallison:I wouldn't get too worried if I was legally living in the U.S. I genuinely don't think any of his policies will be racist unless you consider tightening the borders, getting rid of illegal immigrants and lowering the number of people migrating as racist. His no Muslim policy would be a non starter because it would require someone to admit to it in the first place (that would be racist if he did impose this though) . His biggest challenge though is making the books balance he's talking about tax cuts which sounds great but there is question marks over how that would work. I do believe his intention to create more jobs and think he's got good experience doing that. He might be rich but I'm sure a lot of people working for him are regular hard working people like myself, as long as people are getting paid fairly and jobs are getting created then thumbs up. Btw I've got doubts as to how he can achieve a lot of the stuff he says he will but we'll see. Having watched and listened to the guy I'd say he was perhaps more ignorant than a down right racist. I don't think he wants to see anyone of any race, ethnicity or gender suffer, especially those already living in the U.S. lets see what happens anyway, if he proves to be this person he's portrayed to be then people will have a right to be upset, but I'm very doubtful he's that much of an extremist.
    Well-put. I don't think he has any problem with legal residents.
  10. Originally posted by bartajax:[..]
    Of course not, but I hope some people with power and with brains will speak out and will do everything they can to make it 4 terrible years for Trump and everyone who voted for them.For example, he is a business man, do you really think he will bring back jobs from Asia? People seem to believe that kind of shit, it's just so stupid.

    By the way, I think Clinton is a terrible candidate too, but at least she has some dignity.

    Another thing that would frighten me if I was a well-thinking, progressive American: The whole system is now Republican. Let's go stop LGBT's and women rights, let's stop abortion, let's give everyone a gun. In other words go 40 years back in time with those religious idiots.
    Religious idiots? I wouldn't say being conservative and being religious are necessarily connected.
  11. If those people are against those rights I just put down? That Pence guy is as stupid as they come.

    Btw im not a real objective guy when it comes to religion so read between the lines.
    And about hoping the best for the people who voted for Trump; I'm sorry but to make a comparison with The Netherlands, I really dont give a shit if it goes well with people who vote for a idiot like Wilders.
  12. Originally posted by deanallison:I wouldn't get too worried if I was legally living in the U.S. I genuinely don't think any of his policies will be racist unless you consider tightening the borders, getting rid of illegal immigrants and lowering the number of people migrating as racist. His no Muslim policy would be a non starter because it would require someone to admit to it in the first place (that would be racist if he did impose this though) . His biggest challenge though is making the books balance he's talking about tax cuts which sounds great but there is question marks over how that would work. I do believe his intention to create more jobs and think he's got good experience doing that. He might be rich but I'm sure a lot of people working for him are regular hard working people like myself, as long as people are getting paid fairly and jobs are getting created then thumbs up. Btw I've got doubts as to how he can achieve a lot of the stuff he says he will but we'll see. Having watched and listened to the guy I'd say he was perhaps more ignorant than a down right racist. I don't think he wants to see anyone of any race, ethnicity or gender suffer, especially those already living in the U.S. lets see what happens anyway, if he proves to be this person he's portrayed to be then people will have a right to be upset, but I'm very doubtful he's that much of an extremist.
    The judge of the Trump Univesity case was more American than the Super Bowl and for Trump all that counted was that he was "mexican" to disqualify him.
    Again, it is easy to say nothing wrong will happen... if you're white, not poor and christian, but he's going to kill women's rights to abortion, he's going to put sick people out of medical care, he's going to let people discriminate based on religion. Muslims may not be banned but it's all the same because due to Trump's rhetoric they are seen as terrorists and the enemy, just like after 9/11. Families will be set apart because of him. Children that came to this country without knowing will be deported and treated like criminals. The Iran peace deal will be abolished and all these countries are going to get nuclear arsenal again, etc. The press will be sued if you speak bad of him, the women that accused him of sexual harassment will be put to jail, etc.