1. Originally posted by cesar_garza01:In Mexico 10 years ago we had a similar situation, where the president was elected only by a 0.5% victory margin, about 100, 000 votes.
    I think for situations like these a second-round should be appropriate like in other countries, without any third-party candidates.
    Yes, that's another thing too: third-party candidates take votes away from the two main candidates, which makes it even trickier to effectively choose a clear winner.
  2. Yeah, we have more candidates and if noone has over 50%, firs two go to second round. But last time we ended with some similar pig like Trump... He is good with russian and chinese politics and critize ministers who meet with dalajlama... And guess who vote for him: non educated people or people from small cities and villages...
  3. Originally posted by deanallison:[..]
    This is a genuinely good question that I'd like to see brought to the female public, why did you vote for Trump? I mean that sincerely it really interests me because he's either convinced them with his views and policies or they've simply thought Hilary is worse. Interesting topic.


    I'm from the Netherlands. I also wonder why a woman votes for Trump, because of his sexist and demeaning behaviour.
  4. Are we still talking about this shit?
  5. Perhaps it was a mistake not to let Sanders run against Trump. It should have been clear that the Democratic "new" neo-con politics has come to a full stop. All signs were red... (no pun intended...), yet the might of the demos was under estimated once again.

    Now I understand that there is a lot of fear and anger in America - and the ROW - about what is to become true of all the nasty rhetoric Mr. Trump used during the election campaign(s). This is highly understandable and legit.
    I do, however, believe that Mr. Trump's presidency is not going to result in institutionalized racism or institutionalized sexism (in its broadest sense).
    The reform of civil rights may perhaps come to an end, but not the civil rights as such - it's not like the whole constitution has been changed overnight!

    I wish you all peace - the soup is usually not eaten as hot as it has been served...

    BTW...I hope that Mr. Trump makes true on his promise to invest in infrastructure and do something about the long overdue maintenance of roads and bridges! That would in fact be a blessing for all Americans.

  6. Originally posted by BigGiRL:Perhaps it was a mistake not to let Sanders run against Trump. It should have been clear that the Democratic "new" neo-con politics has come to a full stop. All signs were red... (no pun intended...), yet the might of the demos was under estimated once again.

    Now I understand that there is a lot of fear and anger in America - and the ROW - about what is to become true of all the nasty rhetoric Mr. Trump used during the election campaign(s). This is highly understandable and legit.
    I do, however, believe that Mr. Trump's presidency is not going to result in institutionalized racism or institutionalized sexism (in its broadest sense).
    The reform of civil rights may perhaps come to an end, but not the civil rights as such - it's not like the whole constitution has been changed overnight!

    I wish you all peace - the soup is usually not eaten as hot as it has been served...

    BTW...I hope that Mr. Trump makes true on his promise to invest in infrastructure and do something about the long overdue maintenance of roads and bridges! That would in fact be a blessing for all Americans.

    We are a nation of hypocrites and fear mongerers. When Obama got elected the world as we knew it was going to fall apart and people protested also. We're now on day 2 post election and the sun came out again, the stock market has crashed, restabilized, and gone up.

    As with every new candidate, there is the great unknown. We can only hope he will guided well in his position as figurehead. In the end, we're all gonna be ok.

    The whole infrastructure promise is a good place to start as Dems will (should) be willing to support this.

    If we get the Trump we saw in his victory speech, we will all be fine. As HILLARY herself said, we owe him and open mind and a chance to lead.

    And that's it. He is our next President, like it or not. And for the protesters chanting "not my President" I'll say the same thing I said to the idiots who protested Obama... "Yes! He is. Get over it."
  7. It'll be interesting to revisit this in a year and see if the climate is the same or people have changed their tune. Remind me in a year. Until then, it's over, people!
  8. Originally posted by blueeyedboy:[..]
    We are a nation of hypocrites and fear mongerers. When Obama got elected the world as we knew it was going to fall apart and people protested also. We're now on day 2 post election and the sun came out again, the stock market has crashed, restabilized, and gone up.

    As with every new candidate, there is the great unknown. We can only hope he will guided well in his position as figurehead. In the end, we're all gonna be ok.

    The whole infrastructure promise is a good place to start as Dems will (should) be willing to support this.

    If we get the Trump we saw in his victory speech, we will all be fine. As HILLARY herself said, we owe him and open mind and a chance to lead.

    And that's it. He is our next President, like it or not. And for the protesters chanting "not my President" I'll say the same thing I said to the idiots who protested Obama... "Yes! He is. Get over it."
    Coming in here completely neutral (i.e., not trying to take a side because what's the point...at this point, anyway) but I have a question with which my Google search isn't helping me out:

    Were there "Not My President" protests eight (or even four) years ago against Obama? Just wondering if there were and if so, were they as big - and if either of my previous questions are a "yes" is the media then sensationalizing the current one's against Trump - for their own ratings, of course?
  9. https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

    Here's the proof that Trump doesn't need to pass a bill making racism and discrimination legal. His own rhetoric, and his silent approval of KKK leaders, white supremacists, anti-Semitic, anti-immigration imbeciles (he wants to put Joe Arpaio in Homeland Security, ffs!) has brought an entire wave of racism into the XXI century. This is only day 2.
  10. The "funny" thing is, that we call this democracy. 320 mil. people can "freely" choose among two candidates, one worse than the other, while those 320 mil. people have no say in choosing those two (or am I wrong?). And not only we call it democracy, but we force it to the rest of the World, wars being the usual messengers of the good news. There are no words to describe the absurdity and the obscenity really. (I am not from US, but I say "we," since Europe plays happily along)
  11. Originally posted by Happy24:The "funny" thing is, that we call this democracy. 320 mil. people can "freely" choose among two candidates, one worse than the other, while those 320 mil. people have no say in choosing those two (or am I wrong?). And not only we call it democracy, but we force it to the rest of the World, wars being the usual messengers of the good news. There are no words to describe the absurdity and the obscenity really. (I am not from US, but I say "we," since Europe plays happily along)
    Funny thing is 46.9% of the population not turning up to vote doesn't help the cause (and don't tell me almost 1/2 the population was intimidated, refused, blah blah blah)

    Trump called the system rigged and people laughed at him and called him a whiner. Now that that system worked in his favor the same people are whining. 5 times in U.S. history (6 if you really read the facts behind the Nixon-Kennedy election) has a candidate win the popular vote and lost the election. 6 of 45. The electoral college, while flawed and somewhat dated, is the system. You know who has the power to change it?