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  1. But Bono is screwing up the lyrics as any other tour and even changing some lines in SBS, Pride, OTH, just to mention a few
  2. Yea bono is def not great with lyrics lol. But that is nothing new.
  3. I feel like anytime I've listened in Bono has done a good job with the lyrics specifically TJT songs that hadnt been played for a long time up until this tour. I've not got any complaints lyrically about the others either.
  4. I find it funny this is still the top thread...


  5. Oh God no, just a comment. The day they drop Streets is the day they play their last show.
  6. Originally posted by deanallison:[..]
    To answer your question I stand by my original view he is concentrating more on the songs to get the lyrics right and therefore perform the songs closer to the album versions. This and the fact the songs aren't the most upbeat anyway lead Bono to doing more standing and less moving which is exactly what I want from this tour. I think like others have mentioned also the songs make him very emotional which is perfectly understandable they make me emotional too. It's less of a rock n roll show and more like him performing ballads, again what I want from this particular tour. Anyway I'll be going on Saturday and will give an honest review on the show page. I fully respect everyone else's views on the shows so far.
    I think I'm with you (too)
    I just think that there is nothing "wrong" with Bono, other than getting older.
    Which I think is a good thing. I'm getting older myself and I hope to continue to
    do so for the next 50, 60 years (I'm not going to miss the sixties this time!)

    And I like it when Bono reflects on the stuff that gets you when you are getting older.
    Now Mick Jagger may be all about the things that you still can do when you're
    getting older - but not everyone can be like Jagger, in fact one Jagger is more than suitable
    But it's also nice when there is music and lyrics about things that you can't do anymore.
    It would be silly to pretend one is still in his or her twenties, when he or she is not.
    And U2 has got a large audience that grew up with them since the 80-ies. It's a very loyal
    crowd and perhaps it makes sense to cherish that group of people instead of fighting for new
    audiences all the time. Now some may find this boring and weak, but it is only rational (and I like it!).
    But to them I would say, wait till you get older yourself. You will learn that you have to compromise
    and focus on the things you have and the things you are good at.

    BTW: I may find the JT2017 a lesser tour (because it is a very static tour), but it is still a U2 tour and I
    wouldn't miss it for the word!

  7. ^
    I really feel that after what Dean and Joyce stated above, we can finally close this thread.
    very well spoken you both!
  8. Originally posted by BigGiRL:[..]
    I think I'm with you (too)
    I just think that there is nothing "wrong" with Bono, other than getting older.
    Which I think is a good thing. I'm getting older myself and I hope to continue to
    do so for the next 50, 60 years (I'm not going to miss the sixties this time!)

    And I like it when Bono reflects on the stuff that gets you when you are getting older.
    Now Mick Jagger may be all about the things that you still can do when you're
    getting older - but not everyone can be like Jagger, in fact one Jagger is more than suitable
    But it's also nice when there is music and lyrics about things that you can't do anymore.
    It would be silly to pretend one is still in his or her twenties, when he or she is not.
    And U2 has got a large audience that grew up with them since the 80-ies. It's a very loyal
    crowd and perhaps it makes sense to cherish that group of people instead of fighting for new
    audiences all the time. Now some may find this boring and weak, but it is only rational (and I like it!).
    But to them I would say, wait till you get older yourself. You will learn that you have to compromise
    and focus on the things you have and the things you are good at.

    BTW: I may find the JT2017 a lesser tour (because it is a very static tour), but it is still a U2 tour and I
    wouldn't miss it for the word!

    Excellent post Joyce.
  9. We have to keep in that he is human, not superhero. He has used a teleprompter now for awhile. If he's not in front of it, he's more prone to get lyrics jumbled. Remember, he also has glaucoma, so, not saying that has any effect, but it might when reading said teleprompter. He also has been known to play with lyrics almost as often as he forgets them...

    And what Joyce says about cherishing the audience that got you there instead of fighting for a new one is a very welcome change.

    Seeing them live this tour I saw great passion and energy. A different kind of energy, maybe... but it was there. As far as his voice... any aging singer will tell you they can't hit the same notes as they once did. I also think a lot of the Joshua Tree, specifically the leaser heard side 2 tracks are more revealing songs that leave him exposed.

    Stop looking for something that's not there.
  10. 1.The dude broke his spine, arm and shoulder, he can't jump and run like the old days.

    2. The dude sings new songs way better than older songs.

    3. They should have gone on tour in one year or two.
  11. Originally posted by blueeyedboy:We have to keep in that he is human, not superhero. He has used a teleprompter now for awhile. If he's not in front of it, he's more prone to get lyrics jumbled. Remember, he also has glaucoma, so, not saying that has any effect, but it might when reading said teleprompter. He also has been known to play with lyrics almost as often as he forgets them...

    And what Joyce says about cherishing the audience that got you there instead of fighting for a new one is a very welcome change.

    Seeing them live this tour I saw great passion and energy. A different kind of energy, maybe... but it was there. As far as his voice... any aging singer will tell you they can't hit the same notes as they once did. I also think a lot of the Joshua Tree, specifically the leaser heard side 2 tracks are more revealing songs that leave him exposed.

    Stop looking for something that's not there.
    Yeah, my God, as far as lyrics go..., I have listened to these songs a gazillion times down the years and still find myself regularly, at any given moment, forgetting words to even some of my most played favourites. The older you get and the more songs and stuff you squeeze into your grey matter, the harder it is to retain it all. A few months back, for the life of me I couldn't remember Tom Cruise's name, like one of the worlds most famous actors of the last 30 years. I had to Google his films! I'm not going 'doolally' or anything, just a temporary mental block, you hit 40+ and this stuff happens more and more. It's only natural he's going to slip up a fair bit with the body of work they have (published and unpublished - together with his own vast arts / cultural intake).

    I suppose my worry with the band and this tour at the moment, which is not major as it will be over in the blink of an eyelid anyway, is that I hope they are keeping it fresh for themselves on a nightly basis, and I'm not entirely sure that's the case at the minute as I feel the setlist / concept / screen tech isn't giving them too much wiggle room to mix things up and keep it as fresh as perhaps they have done in times gone by. And because of that there is a bit of a danger of them going through the motions instead of getting inside the songs like we know they always do, and not enjoying it quite as much as they should be, and in turn not giving their best as a consequence of that. Remember what happened with the LoveTown tour and how they got bored with the same thing night after night, and pretty much decided to tip it all on it's head by reversing the setlist somewhat. Secondly, I just kinda wished they'd give us an extra 15-30 minutes, and throw some other stuff in there, have an interval if need be.

    Mind you, they're almost 60, we have to give them that, being on your feet for that long can take it out of you somewhat, they know what they're doing, they'll always have my love, admiration and respect for times gone by and for doing this and giving us all the opportunity to celebrate this album and hear some of these songs for the first time, or a second time round for those who saw TJT first time round - and heck who cares really, JT side two /drool!
  12. I'm treating this as the second drunk thread because you have to be drunk out of your mind for any of this to even make sense.
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