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  1. Originally posted by ahn1991:[..]
    I'm treating this as the second drunk thread because you have to be drunk out of your mind for any of this to even make sense.


    5 beer salute, sir!
  2. Bono is singing at a lower key but that's understandable. Being at a few shows, the whole band seem caught between the news of the day and wanting to just celebrate. Hopefully nothing too serious and they get SOE out and keep touring a bit longer. Cheers all!
  3. FWIW, I saw an early show (Santa Clara), had horrible nosebleed seats, did not expect a lot, and was totally blown away. I thought Bono sounded great and the entire JT performance moved me to tears more than once. I really felt that the band was connected to the music. They somehow reached me way up in the crappiest seats, and I don't know how they did it.
  4. Originally posted by mars:FWIW, I saw an early show (Santa Clara), had horrible nosebleed seats, did not expect a lot, and was totally blown away. I thought Bono sounded great and the entire JT performance moved me to tears more than once. I really felt that the band was connected to the music. They somehow reached me way up in the crappiest seats, and I don't know how they did it.
    This is so good to hear, you were not expecting all kinds of stuff, and when you just go and open up U2 is the best !!! Glad you had such a good time.
  5. I only saw Youtube videos of the opening night and I was worried too. That said I'm sure Bono will feel more motivated by new material and being indoors again next year.

    Here's another singer more or less his age that gets a lot of flack of voice deterioration and moving around less compared to "good old days"
  6. Imagine how worried people were during 360's opening night when they had to restart One. Still, people won't ask what was wrong with Bono during that tour even though he physically injured himself and had to delay a couple legs by a year.
  7. They won't ask because there wasn't anything wrong with Bono on that tour. We're talking about this tour.
  8. If we're talking about this tour, I need about 10 more beers before I'll be in the right state of mind to participate in that discussion.
  9. This thread is a classic example of today's rhetorics.
    Prompting the question "what is wrong with...?" does not allow for refutation of the question (i.e. answers that
    prove the question obsolte) but, instead, only seek to legitimise the question as such. Or, to put it more simple,
    satisfying anwers are not requested; the question merely tries to organize consensus that the question is right.
    The "what" is in fact a covert "that" (i.e. that there is something wrong).

    The reason for this is that the question "what is wrong with..." is an emotional question and therefore only
    allows for an emotional anwer, not a rational one.

    But don't get me wrong here: this particular question about Bono is born out of compassion.
    The "problem" here is that some of us (mostly "older" people, say 40+, exceptions not withstanding) can relate to
    Bono's feelings, and others not - or not so much. And I suspect that we are not going to reach consensus here,
    simply because we do not all feel the same way...

  10. Nothing is wrong with Bono... roll on Saturday
  11. Originally posted by BigGiRL:This thread is a classic example of today's rhetorics.
    Prompting the question "what is wrong with...?" does not allow for refutation of the question (i.e. answers that
    prove the question obsolte) but, instead, only seek to legitimise the question as such. Or, to put it more simple,
    satisfying anwers are not requested; the question merely tries to organize consensus that the question is right.
    The "what" is in fact a covert "that" (i.e. that there is something wrong).

    The reason for this is that the question "what is wrong with..." is an emotional question and therefore only
    allows for an emotional anwer, not a rational one.

    But don't get me wrong here: this particular question about Bono is born out of compassion.
    The "problem" here is that some of us (mostly "older" people, say 40+, exceptions not withstanding) can relate to
    Bono's feelings, and others not - or not so much. And I suspect that we are not going to reach consensus here,
    simply because we do not all feel the same way...

    Classic leading question.

    The reason people are asking this is because the band is touring with an album that was released 30 years ago and most people here have their nostalgia goggles on really, really tight.
  12. Originally posted by mars:FWIW, I saw an early show (Santa Clara), had horrible nosebleed seats, did not expect a lot, and was totally blown away. I thought Bono sounded great and the entire JT performance moved me to tears more than once. I really felt that the band was connected to the music. They somehow reached me way up in the crappiest seats, and I don't know how they did it.
    Hey Mars, I was at the same show, but had a slightly different impression.

    I’m glad that many here have brought that up. I noticed that when I went on 5-17-17. As good as that show was, they seemed a bit listless—like they were already tired. It was pretty chilly that night and I felt a little drained, too. And, having to work a half day didn’t help. But it does feel like something is missing. There wasn’t the swagger and verve of i+e 2015. Remember how the show began with the flashing stage lights synchronized to Edge’s guitar riff on The Miracle (of Joey Ramone)? You got a sense you were going to see something really special.

    This time around, I did believe that I would do that again when I saw that gigantic 250-foot screen. And even though the show started strong with a bunch of their hits before TJT, it felt a bit subdued. While I totally understand why they started out on the B stage, my preference would have been the main stage with a little more pomp and circumstance.

    For me, I agree with many in this forum that it doesn’t seem like Dublin lads we all have known. Additionally, for those who say the band is back to form, I can’t disagree. I’ve only seen one show.

    As for the other theories about JT2017 being an obligation of their contract, or a money grab; those make sense, too. I don’t think the band is mercenary, rather if they are obliged to tour, then making money out of it is plausible. However, there are also convincing arguments against this theory as well.

    We all know that band is at their best when playing in front of a live audience. Bono loves connecting with the audience and always has. This tour was an opportunity to do so and I’m sure that there were many reasons to go back on the road. From celebrating a seminal album, to test-driving new songs from SOE, to satisfying certain agreements of their contract, to making money to re-connecting with fans, there seems like many reasons to do it. I’d guess there were many, many meeting about the merits of launching a new tour and this is where they landed. Of course, this is just a guess.

    That said, I’d that they did. But I guess I was hoping the dynamism of the last few tours. However, it wasn't the gloom & doom show. Here’s a video (link) I shot with my Canon G-16 that show our boys can still crush it.

    https://achtungninja.wordpress.com/2017/06/29/where-the-streets-have-no-name-levis-stadium-5-17-17/
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