1. Originally posted by Ali709:So I suppose the you are rock and roll bit is to go with him calling the country a sound of drums and bass, etc.

    The way it would make sense to me is if we actually see it as a thematic connection with SOI and Volcano.
    On Volcano, he was talking about his grief, and how we was alone, and joining the band, and their audience, he wasn't alone any more - he and the band became "rock and roll", making up for his grief.
    American Soul's chorus could then refer to their fascination as a band with America and fits well with their TJT mindset - then using the same lyrics sort of makes sense, i.e. his journey within the band and overcoming the grief continued onto America and looking for the American soul.

    Of course, the other explanation is that he just went "fuck it" and used the same lyrics
    I mean, that's certainly a nice and artistic way to look at it, and I wouldn't be surprised if you're very close to the mark.

    But it shouldn't require that much thought to be a good song. It should be able to stand on its own, and it can't. Despite the chorus leading back to the first verse, it's still fucking terrible and there could have been a way more elegant and clever way to make that point. And again, how can Bono criticize Bad and Streets and think this stuff is okay? He talks as though he's constantly improving his writing and how his old stuff was amateur, yet I know teenagers who have written more inspiring lyrics than these. He's off his rocker when it comes to this stuff. But it's odd because the verses of GOOYOW are pretty great lyrically in his phrasing and word play. He's all over the map.
  2. I like the song . I'm simple. It makes me happy. It's in your face rock !!! More than I can say for 99.99% of today's "music"


  3. I got it pre-ordering the CD yesterday.
  4. Originally posted by Ali709:So I suppose the you are rock and roll bit is to go with him calling the country a sound of drums and bass, etc.

    The way it would make sense to me is if we actually see it as a thematic connection with SOI and Volcano.
    On Volcano, he was talking about his grief, and how we was alone, and joining the band, and their audience, he wasn't alone any more - he and the band became "rock and roll", making up for his grief.
    American Soul's chorus could then refer to their fascination as a band with America and fits well with their TJT mindset - then using the same lyrics sort of makes sense, i.e. his journey within the band and overcoming the grief continued onto America and looking for the American soul.

    Of course, the other explanation is that he just went "fuck it" and used the same lyrics
    I thought that as well! "Came here looking for American Soul" reminded me of The Joshua Tree.
  5. Originally posted by Ali709:So I suppose the you are rock and roll bit is to go with him calling the country a sound of drums and bass, etc.

    The way it would make sense to me is if we actually see it as a thematic connection with SOI and Volcano.
    On Volcano, he was talking about his grief, and how we was alone, and joining the band, and their audience, he wasn't alone any more - he and the band became "rock and roll", making up for his grief.
    American Soul's chorus could then refer to their fascination as a band with America and fits well with their TJT mindset - then using the same lyrics sort of makes sense, i.e. his journey within the band and overcoming the grief continued onto America and looking for the American soul.

    Of course, the other explanation is that he just went "fuck it" and used the same lyrics
    Far-fetched explanation: CONFIRMED.

  6. This is a Little More Better than Volcano...
  7. Sorry, but I go with Occam's razor here. If it looks like a duck, etc.
    When Bono copies his own lyrics he's showing that they are throwaway lines, used for any occassion, like a tool.
    Bono says he loves America, but he only loves to repeat his talking points about the idea he has about America. I can't believe the album was delayed so he can copy lyrics about an Irish teenager. He had 3 years to see what America has become: a resurgence of rascism, nativism, science deniers, spearheaded by Trump but certainly not the only one and he can only come up with " You are rock n roll"? are you kidding me? Bono, ask all the immigrants and minorities here to see if they are rocking now.
  8. Originally posted by cesar_garza01:Sorry, but I go with Occam's razor here. If it looks like a duck, etc.
    When Bono copies his own lyrics he's showing that they are throwaway lines, used for any occassion, like a tool.
    Bono says he loves America, but he only loves to repeat his talking points about the idea he has about America. I can't believe the album was delayed so he can copy lyrics about an Irish teenager. He had 3 years to see what America has become: a resurgence of rascism, nativism, science deniers, spearheaded by Trump but certainly not the only one and he can only come up with " You are rock n roll"? are you kidding me? Bono, ask all the immigrants and minorities here to see if they are rocking now.
    Bingo.


    Your Joshua Tree sounds a lot less nuanced and subtle than mine does. Not to mention it highlights what the band likes about America by pointing out its faults along with the more mythic side of its greatness through metaphors instead of simply stating "you are rock and roll".

    I mean c'mon, man. No fucking way is this anywhere NEAR the Joshua Tree...is it about America? Yes. That's about as far as it goes.
  9. Expecting song lyrics to make literal sense is just missing the point entirely.
  10. Exactly! Although I believe some little things were giving it away... While other parts get out of their own way...
  11. Who are you directing this towards?

    If me, I'm not expecting them to make literal sense, in fact I think Bono is being too obvious and on the nose with his lyric writing. How many songs on the new album have the word "liberty" in them already? It's just too obvious. Bono's best lyrics (and the best lyrics in general I'd say) are when they're their most interpretive. I didn't know Bad was about a heroine addiction killing someone until somebody told me, I thought it was a love song and nothing more when I first heard it.

    It's no secret what any of these new songs is about, and that's sort of why it's a shame. They're starting to be come what they hated themselves for in the Rattle and Hum era, America-loving, greatest-hits set playing, overblown, etc. I hate that this album became a political one when it probably wasn't even close to that before Trump got elected and they "took a step back". The promise of Songs of Experience was that it would be as personal as Innocence was, but with a different take, a different outlook. Instead they reverted back to their old selves.