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U2 - Songs Of Experience (2017)
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  3. Originally posted by Alvin:[..]
    I love the album, but I understand someone doesn't and feels disappointed from the album he expected and wanted to be good... So why couldn't he write his opinion here? Or we should write only positive comments on the internet?
    And you really didn't read what I said there either did you?

    In all actuality I wasn't blown away by it either. I'm liking it more and more and really I've found that with all U2 albums.

    My point is that there are people here, and everywhere else online that just tear things apart as if doing that makes you a super fan or something.

    I do not understand why someone who hates or completely dislikes all of the band's output from say the 2000s on would even be on this site. It kind of doesn't make sense.

    To me you at least have to LIKE the new stuff to be here... since you know...it's new. If the band had broken up after Pop and this was some Memorial site thn fine...but this is a living, working band who are doing and trying new things.

    That said, if you don't LOVE the new stuff that is totally fine and makes a hell of a lot of sense. I woukd argue that there are a number of things that the 80's 90's 2000's and 2010's U2 have in common which still makes them U2 but there are also differences. The 90's were my favorite but I still really really love them now.
  4. Originally posted by u2_michaelc:[..]


    my fave tracks in order
    1)Summer Of Love, Love the bass. the upbeat catchy feel.
    2) Book Of Your Heart. Love the guitar and Bono's DEEP vocal. amazing
    3) Little Things. Sad, emotional and deep lyrics, Edge at the end pulls it all togther
    4) Red Flag Day. Cool guitar. cool bass line. This is the type of song you jump around around with your partner or friend ect.
    5) lights Of Home. Great bass, and Edge solo, wish it was longer though.
    Equal 6.
    Landlady, 13. Love Is All We Have Left.Simply great songs!
    i'm trying to figure an order that would be good to listen to SFS and 13.


    A Great album and the best one i've heard in a while. I know it's early days but if you ask me in a years time my mind will be saying the some thing. Best album since Achtung..well you could say Yes you could say No, i'm saying
    Yes! at least the best album of the 2000's.
    I’m also saying yes to it being the best since Achtung Baby. Absolutely love it.
  5. Originally posted by MoFoNYR15:[..]


    So if I don’t like the album and I start to go into detail about why I don’t like it, it’s bashing and not just stating my opinion? I’m just trying to understand your point. To me you’re basically saying if don’t have something good to say, don’t say it at all.
    It's just opinions.

    Look, I've totally hated when the forums or a particular thread is populated by people mocking and crapping over a song or an album or a show, and it looks like all the cool kids bullying at school, and I wish to stop posting in here and going to a forum with people that thinks about U2 as positive as I do, but there isn't, so I have to take it

    Now, the majority is loving it and enjoying it, someone says something bad, people don't mock him or crap him or post a trash bin and throws his avatar in there, people just complain of the complaining and THAT'S when people don't feel welcome?

    Just take it. Nobody's being offensive...
  6. Originally posted by kris_smith87:[..]
    And you really didn't read what I said there either did you?

    In all actuality I wasn't blown away by it either. I'm liking it more and more and really I've found that with all U2 albums.

    My point is that there are people here, and everywhere else online that just tear things apart as if doing that makes you a super fan or something.

    I do not understand why someone who hates or completely dislikes all of the band's output from say the 2000s on would even be on this site. It kind of doesn't make sense.

    To me you at least have to LIKE the new stuff to be here... since you know...it's new. If the band had broken up after Pop and this was some Memorial site thn fine...but this is a living, working band who are doing and trying new things.

    That said, if you don't LOVE the new stuff that is totally fine and makes a hell of a lot of sense. I woukd argue that there are a number of things that the 80's 90's 2000's and 2010's U2 have in common which still makes them U2 but there are also differences. The 90's were my favorite but I still really really love them now.
    okay... maybe it was misunderstanding... I know what you mean, haters will hate... but it's their opinion and if they want to say that, they can... you can just skip their posts or argue - but the argue will by totally pointless
  7. Originally posted by Bloodraven:[..]
    It's just opinions.

    Look, I've totally hated when the forums or a particular thread is populated by people mocking and crapping over a song or an album or a show, and it looks like all the cool kids bullying at school, and I wish to stop posting in here and going to a forum with people that thinks about U2 as positive as I do, but there isn't, so I have to take it

    Now, the majority is loving it and enjoying it, someone says something bad, people don't mock him or crap him or post a trash bin and throws his avatar in there, people just complain of the complaining and THAT'S when people don't feel welcome?

    Just take it. Nobody's being offensive...
    Yeah, nobody is actually kicking the guy out for not liking U2's new album. If you go to a band's fansite and say something negative about the band, you're gonna get arguments trying to counter what you said. The only sensitivity I see here that's unreasonable is the fact that now we're arguing about whether that was okay to do or not.

    Instead of the internet, pretend we're at a bar or someplace. If you see a group of people talking about something they like, and you go over and say, "no, that thing sucks and you're all wrong" then of course you're gonna get a couple responses that are less than friendly. There are better ways to disagree about the SOE love and still be part of a constructive discussion. Everyone has been pretty civil here though, so I don't get what the big deal is.
  8. Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:[..]


    See, this argument makes no sense to me though, especially since part of what's made SoI and SoE special is that they have so many callbacks to things only U2 fans would know and that they've sort of found out over the course of years of loving the band. Part of the reason we appreciate them is because Bono has never written such personal lyrics. If this was someone's first album, we wouldn't really give a shit.

    The first question people always ask in criticism is "how does it compare to the one (or many) that came before?" - and there's a reason for it. Why would we critique SoE as if it was someone else's first album when it very obviously couldn't be someone else's first album?

    I also disagree anyway. If I didn't know the artist who wrote this album and someone gave it to me and said "review this", I would certainly give it well over a 2/5. It's diverse, it's fun, it's sad, it's deep, it's politically relevant, it has a beginning and an end, up-tempo songs and down-tempo songs, has great riffs for a rock band, catchy hooks, etc.

    And I have to agree with Kris, dude. I see you hating on U2 more than digging them. We've definitely agreed on stuff before, but he's not wrong lol. So I'll ask the question I asked earlier in the thread: would you be satisfied with anything U2 would or could put out these days?

    (this isn't an angry post so I hope it doesn't read like it, just trying to have an honest conversation)


    I don't think this was being "offensive" to a negative opinion at all. I'm merely stating my counter-argument to his argument (since that's what he was doing, he wasn't saying "I don't like it" he was saying "it's not good, and you guys wouldn't like it if it wasn't U2 either" - I think I'm allowed the right to defend my opinion without that being considered as being offensive to anyone who doesn't like it) and following it up with an honest question.

    The majority of posts I see here when someone posts a negative opinion is never "get out then", it's always "wow really? what don't you like about it?" and we can talk about it from there. As Kris said, there's a difference between that and just leaving a quick snide remark in saying "meh, it's shit, and you guys should think it is too." - especially when it's a guy who's seemingly had this attitude for 90% of the stuff U2 has put out.

    Maybe the people who are positive are just overly-positive because the forum has been a bit negative over the past few months (I'm guilty of this), and we're all just basking in the positivity again.
  9. Originally posted by MoFoNYR15:[..]


    So if I don’t like the album and I start to go into detail about why I don’t like it, it’s bashing and not just stating my opinion? I’m just trying to understand your point. To me you’re basically saying if don’t have something good to say, don’t say it at all.
    Nick, I would love to read your opinion of SOE here once you listen to it. I hope you do it.
  10. Back in the day of day of limited internet and magazines being the main source of interviews and news, in their review of Beautiful Day single, the NME writer suggested that someone should do a 'Mark Chapman' on Bono, but this time, aim lower. The same issue of the NME had U2 on the front cover knowing this would lead to an increase in sales. Happy to use U2, but shit on them too. All you need to know about the NME. A rag then and now. U2 were not a new UK band discovered by the NME. U2 were successful in spite of the UK press. Bono himself described them as public school boys unimpressed with their Irish neighbours having delusions of grandeur.
  11. Originally posted by TheRefugee:Back in the day of day of limited internet and magazines being the main source of interviews and news, in their review of Beautiful Day single, the NME writer suggested that someone should do a 'Mark Chapman' on Bono, but this time, aim lower. The same issue of the NME had U2 on the front cover knowing this would lead to an increase in sales. Happy to use U2, but shit on them too. All you need to know about the NME. A rag then and now. U2 were not a new UK band discovered by the NME. U2 were successful in spite of the UK press. Bono himself described them as public school boys unimpressed with their Irish neighbours having delusions of grandeur.
    Like I said in the other thread, I don't really give a shit about reviews good or bad about stuff like this. The only time I care about reviews is when it could decide the future of something (movie franchise, etc.) but U2 will go on with or without good reviews.

    It helps that I really enjoy the new album.
  12. Originally posted by TheRefugee:Back in the day of day of limited internet and magazines being the main source of interviews and news, in their review of Beautiful Day single, the NME writer suggested that someone should do a 'Mark Chapman' on Bono, but this time, aim lower. The same issue of the NME had U2 on the front cover knowing this would lead to an increase in sales. Happy to use U2, but shit on them too. All you need to know about the NME. A rag then and now. U2 were not a new UK band discovered by the NME. U2 were successful in spite of the UK press. Bono himself described them as public school boys unimpressed with their Irish neighbours having delusions of grandeur.
    Jeez. That is terrible. Jay Z says something similar in 99 Problems about how radio wanted his interviews/ads but didn't want to play his songs.
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