1. Here's what bono said about summer of love

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/bono-u2-state-of-the-world-what-he-learned-from-almost-dying-w514442

    Q: Let me ask you about "Summer of Love," which is about Syria and the refugees. Where did that song come from, musically?

    A: There is a guy working with Ryan Tedder, who wrote a beautiful little guitar part. And this was Edge going through his little excitement, saying, "Oh, if you want something, you just ask for it. Like hip-hop, sample it. Sample it, or replay it." It was a great freedom for him. So that was part of the spirit of this record too. It was like, "Let's look in places you don't normally look." And so we got this beautiful mood, and we have this beautiful melodic s
  2. Originally posted by panasol:Here's what bono said about summer of love

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/bono-u2-state-of-the-world-what-he-learned-from-almost-dying-w514442

    Q: Let me ask you about "Summer of Love," which is about Syria and the refugees. Where did that song come from, musically?

    A: There is a guy working with Ryan Tedder, who wrote a beautiful little guitar part. And this was Edge going through his little excitement, saying, "Oh, if you want something, you just ask for it. Like hip-hop, sample it. Sample it, or replay it." It was a great freedom for him. So that was part of the spirit of this record too. It was like, "Let's look in places you don't normally look." And so we got this beautiful mood, and we have this beautiful melodic s
    At least they are being open about it.
  3. And there is nothing wrong with it. Bono’s story telling in the song is what I love about it. And I’m sure he came up with line “ not the one that everyone knows” which is a great hook in itself
  4. Originally posted by panasol:Here's what bono said about summer of love

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/bono-u2-state-of-the-world-what-he-learned-from-almost-dying-w514442

    Q: Let me ask you about "Summer of Love," which is about Syria and the refugees. Where did that song come from, musically?

    A: There is a guy working with Ryan Tedder, who wrote a beautiful little guitar part. And this was Edge going through his little excitement, saying, "Oh, if you want something, you just ask for it. Like hip-hop, sample it. Sample it, or replay it." It was a great freedom for him. So that was part of the spirit of this record too. It was like, "Let's look in places you don't normally look." And so we got this beautiful mood, and we have this beautiful melodic s
    Well at least they're not hiding it. I feel less bad about it - although I still freak out that they don't give them co-writing credits, and only mention them as "additional guitars"
  5. The fact that people are defending them using someone else's guitar riff is terrible. If you are a U2 fan and you defend this, I dont think there isnt much you wouldnt defend. Its one thing to be inspired by a riff or a sound and another to copy it note for note. The standards you hold a band to are the standards you should expect.
  6. Originally posted by amansman:[..]
    The fact that people are defending them using someone else's guitar riff is terrible. If you are a U2 fan and you defend this, I dont think there isnt much you wouldnt defend. Its one thing to be inspired by a riff or a sound and another to copy it note for note. The standards you hold a band to are the standards you should expect.
    Sampling is pretty normal in the music industry. This isn't unlike that at all.
  7. Originally posted by amansman:[..]
    The fact that people are defending them using someone else's guitar riff is terrible. If you are a U2 fan and you defend this, I dont think there isnt much you wouldnt defend. Its one thing to be inspired by a riff or a sound and another to copy it note for note. The standards you hold a band to are the standards you should expect.
    Hmm. I’m not defending the practice of sampling or in this case simply buying a guitar riff. I don’t see where you have got that from. I am simply giving credit to the band for being open about it.

    Even criminals get reduced sentences for pleading guilty.
  8. Originally posted by germcevoy:[..]
    Hmm. I’m not defending the practice of sampling or in this case simply buying a guitar riff. I don’t see where you have got that from. I am simply giving credit to the band for being open about it.

    Even criminals get reduced sentences for pleading guilty.
    But thats what I am saying. Sampling for a hip hop group. Thats pretty common. Sampling from U2 or most rock bands is a pretty big no because the sounds they create are as important as the lyric. Just because they sampled on Pop before doesnt mean it should be expected. If the best defense is "atleast they admitted it" its a pretty weak one.
  9. Originally posted by amansman:[..]
    But thats what I am saying. Sampling for a hip hop group. Thats pretty common. Sampling from U2 or most rock bands is a pretty big no because the sounds they create are as important as the lyric. Just because they sampled on Pop before doesnt mean it should be expected. If the best defense is "atleast they admitted it" its a pretty weak one.
    I don’t think he’s defending them, he’s just saying it’s good that they admit it rather than try to hide the fact?

    I will admit it’s kind of strange to first learn, but I still don’t see the big deal. Maybe it’s because I love Pop and some songs on that album wouldn’t exist without sampling. Maybe it’s because I also really enjoy No Line, an album where they literally wrote almost every song with Eno and Lanois. At any rate - sorry for saying this at least once already - Summer of Love is clearly a U2 song in its mood and theme and a standout on the album for me.
  10. This wasn't sampling. They composed a song along with their producer, who came up with a musical bit. That's common practice in rock and everywhere when there's a producer involved.

    "(...) he is not a writer, he is one of the producers and he comes into the studio with all that he's got, his talent as a musician, his judgement, his voice. And if [Ryan] whistles something and it ends up on the record, then that is what producers are supposed to do."

    I'd have more problem with Lights of Home, since that riff has been released previously, but then, the song sounds nothing like the Haim one, so I don't have much of a problem with that one either.

    The downside is that I/they/we don't get bragging rights for that particular bit or riff, but I don't have a problem enjoying the songs.
  11. Originally posted by panasol:Here's what bono said about summer of love

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/bono-u2-state-of-the-world-what-he-learned-from-almost-dying-w514442

    Q: Let me ask you about "Summer of Love," which is about Syria and the refugees. Where did that song come from, musically?

    A: There is a guy working with Ryan Tedder, who wrote a beautiful little guitar part. And this was Edge going through his little excitement, saying, "Oh, if you want something, you just ask for it. Like hip-hop, sample it. Sample it, or replay it." It was a great freedom for him. So that was part of the spirit of this record too. It was like, "Let's look in places you don't normally look." And so we got this beautiful mood, and we have this beautiful melodic s
    I liked the question a lot. Seems the interviewer has done his homework and read the U2start Original on the origins of SOE
  12. Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief, all kill their inspiration, and sing about grief.