1. Originally posted by vanden:[..]
    Hi

    Thanks for the reply, most appreciated. Basically l renewed my account early l believe and used my newly issued code (as l previously used my old code for the JT tour) for 2 tickets for the MSG. My account is valid until Jan 2019. I just don't want to get 2 tickets for EU date then have the fear that they will be cancelled.
    More than the info from that screenshot I can't give you, if you really want to be sure you have to contact U2.com. It's all a bit unclear.
  2. Thank for the response Remy, all a bit of a mess.

    U2.com have been no help either giving generic copy and paste unrelated jargon filled replies.
  3. Originally posted by Kevtic:You don't base your ticket price on what it might go for on a tout site. All you are now doing is creating an elitist band of fans who can afford or are willing to pay £200 a ticket. i think using touts as reason for charging high prices is just crazy.

    I'd consider myself a genuine fan but would never pay £200 for them or indeed anyone else. As you've mentioned U2 seem to have just let the touts do what they want now without any attempt to stop re-selling.

    What the band, and others, in their position should be trying to do is figure out ways to sell tickets at an acceptable level and work on how to shut the touts out but as it is all about money and how much they can fleece the fans for as long as they have their share they don't really care what the touts do or how many fans have decided they are charging too much (irrespective of tickets selling).

    If people are happy to pay £200 or more good luck to them but not for me. I've sat in the top tier at the O2 and it's as far removed from the action as you can get. I wouldn't even pay the standing price for a ticket up there if I'm honest.

    I understand people twist themselves in knots trying to defend the indefensible because they love the band but it is just greed. In my opinion of course.

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    I agree with the bit about shutting the touts out. If they did that then they could reduce ticket prices knowing that nobody is taking advantage of them. The answer which has been mentioned a few times is photo on the ticket but fans aren’t happy with that either as it stops them selling the ticket on when there’s a genuine reason they can’t make the concert. One solution to that would be allowing people to return the ticket back to ticketmaster etc who would then have to charge only face value for the ticket. The problem again though is who’s to blame? I say there’s not enough laws in place, ticketmaster are a business, live nation are a business, of course they’re going to do what they can get away with. Ban resell sites, ban selling tickets for higher than face value and put photos on tickets to stop the touts outside the venue, it’s really that simple.
  4. Lets be clear, U2 don't want to stop touts. Livenation who coincidentally manage U2 own Ticketmaster and its reselling subsidiaries thrive of the fees made from touts reselling tickets, they do nothing to prevent such acts and have no intention of doing so. In relation to the high prices for the tickets on the primary market its quite clear U2 has in fact become the ticket tout, £200 for a ticket in the gods in London is appalling.

    Why not announce all the dates at once? Now the pre sale cycle starts again and people panic buy, paying 200 for a rubbish seat in the gods fearing they will not get in at all.
  5. Originally posted by vanden:Lets be clear, U2 don't want to stop touts. Livenation who coincidentally manage U2 own Ticketmaster and its reselling subsidiaries thrive of the fees made from touts reselling tickets, they do nothing to prevent such acts and have no intention of doing so. In relation to the high prices for the tickets on the primary market its quite clear U2 has in fact become the ticket tout, £200 for a ticket in the gods in London is appalling.

    Why not announce all the dates at once? Now the pre sale cycle starts again and people panic buy, paying 200 for a rubbish seat in the gods fearing they will not get in at all.
    That’s why there has to be laws in place to stop the touts, of course livenation and ticketmaster want to make as much money as possible when it’s legal. There would also have to be laws in place about the pricing of tickets to fix the high prices but I don’t know how that would work and if there’s any justification for it when fans are buying them at the current price.
  6. Its a very shady issue alright, hard to fix touting when U2/livenation/ticketmaster actively encourage it.
  7. Hard to get laws passed when the government do so well from these touts as well. VAT on the initial face value purchase then VAT again on the massively inflated reseller purchase.
  8. Originally posted by germcevoy:Hard to get laws passed when the government do so well from these touts as well. VAT on the initial face value purchase then VAT again on the massively inflated reseller purchase.
    Yeah that’s a good point as well, there’s no incentive for the government to do anything about it. Basically as long as fans keep paying it they’ll keep getting away with it. The only solution outwith laws is for artists to sell there own tickets and if they see any on resale sites they get cancelled. U2 would have to finish with livenation and get a team of there own to sell it through there site or a new u2 ticket site. I think at this stage u2 can’t be bothered with the hassle they want an easy life. Maybe they could suggest it to the management for future tours when the contract with livenation is finished but I can’t see them doing anything like that either.
  9. Okay, the FAQ at U2.com about the pre-sales have just a few paragraphs, yet they manage to contradict themselves:

    If I already purchased tickets for 2018 U2eiTour shows, may I use my code again for recently announced additional shows?
    If you already used your unique code to purchase 2 tickets for U2eiTour shows, you are not eligible to purchase tickets in presales for additionally announced shows. Code use is audited and anyone found to be abusing presale privileges risks cancellation of ticket purchases and U2.com subscription.

    How many tickets can I buy in the presale for U2eiTour European dates?
    U2.com Subscribers can use their presale code to buy up to 2 tickets in one transaction for one show.


    According to the first one if somebody only bought 1 ticket, he can still use the code. The second one can be read as the code can be only used in one transaction. Are politicians now running U2.com?

    How complicated will it get? It is about selling tickets for rock'n'roll shows, yet one should probably hire a lawyer, or maybe a priest, since I think those five or six paragraphs have many interpretations, just like Bible. Oh my, an we pay for that
  10. The greed from live nation and U2 is relentless
    I'm just doing 1 show this tour . The prices are scandalous
  11. Originally posted by Happy24:Okay, the FAQ at U2.com about the pre-sales have just a few paragraphs, yet they manage to contradict themselves:

    If I already purchased tickets for 2018 U2eiTour shows, may I use my code again for recently announced additional shows?
    If you already used your unique code to purchase 2 tickets for U2eiTour shows, you are not eligible to purchase tickets in presales for additionally announced shows. Code use is audited and anyone found to be abusing presale privileges risks cancellation of ticket purchases and U2.com subscription.

    How many tickets can I buy in the presale for U2eiTour European dates?
    U2.com Subscribers can use their presale code to buy up to 2 tickets in one transaction for one show.


    According to the first one if somebody only bought 1 ticket, he can still use the code. The second one can be read as the code can be only used in one transaction. Are politicians now running U2.com?
    I think the second part just means you couldn’t buy more than 2 in a single transaction. I get the confusion but it doesn’t specify you couldn’t buy 1 for a show and 1 for another just that you can’t do any more than 2 in a single transaction.
  12. Originally posted by deanallison:[..]
    I think the second part just means you couldn’t buy more than 2 in a single transaction. I get the confusion but it doesn’t specify you couldn’t buy 1 for a show and 1 for another just that you can’t do any more than 2 in a single transaction.
    Agrree with you. But why don't they just write it? Why don't they just write that "the code can be used for buying up to two tickets"? Period. It would be simple and clear. This is not and anybody can interpret it as he pleases.