2018-08-31 - Berlin
Tour: Experience and Innocence tour
Songs played: 25
Audio recordings: 2
Videos: 1
  1. What if, at the end of 13 Bono walks back to the main stage instead of leaving the stage, Edge goes to Adams side and grabs a bass and Adam goed to Edges side and grabs a guitar
  2. Originally posted by Happy24:Those people are nuts. I will arrive at 5 p.m. like always in Berlin and I will be in the 2nd-4th row as always in Berlin, probably some 2 meters from those "superheroes" (not)queuing for 3 days.

    And yes, I fully agree with what was said above - a queue is a queue, one can leave for a toilet or a quick snack, that is understood, but I feel absolutely no respect for those "calls." Don't want to sound too critical, but some people should get life (or professional help)
    To be fair though, there are some that queue, because they want the comfort of a rail spot, some people with various physical / health issues, or perhaps might be height challenged (I met people from both those camps in London this year), and for others it might be their only show of the tour, or even ever. Plus you know some people really love the camaraderie and meeting and chatting with old friends and complete strangers and talking about their passion all day long. It's pretty easy to judge, but gotta remember everyone is different. Although I do agree that queuing anything beyond the day of the show itself really is a bit much and not necessary. I've done 6am for some shows in years gone by, but wouldn't and probably couldn't do any earlier than that these days anyway.
  3. It'll be great if u2.com would give subscribers a live stream on Tuesday.
  4. Originally posted by Caledonia:[..]
    To be fair though, there are some that queue, because they want the comfort of a rail spot, some people with various physical / health issues, or perhaps might be height challenged (I met people from both those camps in London this year), and for others it might be their only show of the tour, or even ever. Plus you know some people really love the camaraderie and meeting and chatting with old friends and complete strangers and talking about their passion all day long. It's pretty easy to judge, but gotta remember everyone is different. Although I do agree that queuing anything beyond the day of the show itself really is a bit much and not necessary. I've done 6am for some shows in years gone by, but wouldn't and probably couldn't do any earlier than that these days anyway.
    I'm not questioning what you've said since it's based on personal experience,but as an observation: anyone with genuine physical/health issues would be taking a risk being upfront in GA at a concert surely?I don't believe anybody goes to a rock concert intending to hurt fellow fans,but there's too many factors beyond your control,hence the options of seating,or even accessibility areas.
  5. Getting in spirit for Berlin! Re-watched From the sky down yesterday. This one magical moment where 'The other bridge' in Sick Puppy/ Mysterious Ways gives birth to the first ever sounds of One...Speechless and touched every time I watch this. I guess that's where Music took over and saved the band. Love Bono's reaction on hearing back the tape.



    From 57:00 onwards.

    Going to see the Hansa studios next Wednesday! A little pilgrimage to holy ground ?
  6. Originally posted by bonoschild:Really wonder how high the numbers are by now..since they're recording the gig, I'll bet all the VIPs will be rearing their big heads


    numbers are well in the 90's now. Paul got that number this morning.
  7. Originally posted by Maaaike:Getting in spirit for Berlin! Re-watched From the sky down yesterday. This one magical moment where 'The other bridge' in Sick Puppy/ Mysterious Ways gives birth to the first ever sounds of One...Speechless and touched every time I watch this. I guess that's where Music took over and saved the band. Love Bono's reaction on hearing back the tape.

    [YouTube Video]

    From 57:00 onwards.

    Going to see the Hansa studios next Wednesday! A little pilgrimage to holy ground ?
    From The Sky Down has incredible insights into U2's creative alchemy.What's frustrating about them is their perfectionism and (if I'm being truthful) their rambling lack of preparation.They have the luxury of being able to essentially go into the studio and see what happens,rather than going into record a set of songs written and arranged in advance.So the end results generate an awful lot of false starts and stress,but it works for them,somehow!
  8. Originally posted by BelfastBoy:[..]
    I'm not questioning what you've said since it's based on personal experience,but as an observation: anyone with genuine physical/health issues would be taking a risk being upfront in GA at a concert surely?I don't believe anybody goes to a rock concert intending to hurt fellow fans,but there's too many factors beyond your control,hence the options of seating,or even accessibility areas.
    And also hence why some queue up from first thing to secure a rail spot which can be considerably more comfortable for them and they can still enjoy seeing their band up close.

    They're not necessarily serious health issues - though one person I met, had experienced a very serious health issue a few years ago, but from what I understood had more or less made a full recovery. Some people can just have minor comfort issues - things that happen as you get older, your body can start to let you down a bit, and securing a rail spot by queuing early can afford that extra bit of comfort, and help is immediately close by if there are any problems.

    At the end of the day, I'm sure people are grown up enough and experienced enough to make their own decisions and judgements about where they want to position themselves in a concert venue. Plus it's not like seeing U2 in 2018 is quite like how it used to be 20-40 years ago. I've seen them 34 times going back to Zoo TV, and off the top of my head probably 75% of those shows I've been in the thick of things in GA, and I think really I've only experienced 2 or 3 that were a bit rough, and they were 90's shows.
  9. Originally posted by Caledonia:[..]
    To be fair though, there are some that queue, because they want the comfort of a rail spot, some people with various physical / health issues, or perhaps might be height challenged (I met people from both those camps in London this year), and for others it might be their only show of the tour, or even ever. Plus you know some people really love the camaraderie and meeting and chatting with old friends and complete strangers and talking about their passion all day long. It's pretty easy to judge, but gotta remember everyone is different. Although I do agree that queuing anything beyond the day of the show itself really is a bit much and not necessary. I've done 6am for some shows in years gone by, but wouldn't and probably couldn't do any earlier than that these days anyway.
    I totally agree with all you wrote and I am all for that. Yeap, some people just love to spend the day with other fans and make friends, some really might need the rail because of some health issues...

    What I really don't get is this queuing / not queuing for three days, when you have to show up at certain times and obey some rules some people just made to suit them.

    The day before the first Berlin gig I was around the arena and heard the guy who sat there and "organized" the queue. He was angry because some girl told some people other rules. He got totally mad, shouting the word "rules" twice in every sentence. I just wonder how much is this about being a fan and having a good time and how much is it about compensating for something by making some rules and expecting / forcing other people to obey what somebody just made up in his head.

    You are absolutely correct - we are all different, this just doesn't suit me so I don't take part in this. It doesn't make me any harm really - as I wrote before, turning up a couple of hours before the show will secure me a place that I want, especially with this format of the show, when people spread around the whole floor, since different people prefer different positions and it is not really the big run for the main stage. So I don't mind much, but listening to that guy before the first Berlin gig was quite an experience...

    And speaking about people who queue in order to get the rail because of some health issues - the last year I stayed in a hostel in Amsterdam and there was this really nice lady from Australia who had her leg recently injured, so that was exactly that - she said she really needed the rail to make it through the concert. So during the day before and twice during the night she had to walk from the hostel to the arena (some 15 minutes of walk one way, which was quite a problem for her) in order to secure her position, beause showing up in the morning and spending the day sitting on a chair in front of the arena would not be enough, eventhough there would be physically no people in the morning. She would not be on somebody's list...because some people need to be in charge and tell other people what to do and when...

    I absolutely don't target my criticism towards all people who take part in this, I know there are many many people (probably most of them) who do it because of the reasons mentioned at the beginning, but this way they have no other choice...

    Anyway, I am really really looking forward to going to Berlin tomorrow and I can't wait to see you all there on the Tuesday evening...
  10. Can't believe it's nearly the end of the tour, wonder how long the band will keep radio silence for after this....
  11. Originally posted by BelfastBoy:[..]
    ,but as an observation: anyone with genuine physical/health issues would be taking a risk being upfront in GA at a concert surely?


    Yes
  12. Just got to Berlin, the arena area looks amazing now most of it is finished. Loads of new places to eat etc.