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  1. U2 songs.com has been a very reliable and informative website they seem to have very reliable sources as the majority of their information and predictions have proved to be correct so I'd take their info to be very credible.
  2. I’m very interested how a mix of arenas/stadiums would turn out from a stage point of view
  3. Originally posted by Papalangas007:[..]
    A setlist with:
    Stay
    Wild Horses
    Acrobat
    Until the End
    Still Havent Found
    With Or Without You
    Streets
    Bullet
    Beautiful Day
    Vertigo
    I Will Follow
    Pride
    The Fly

    and anything from SOI and SOE


    I don't think Acrobat will make the cut. Rest of them are in with a good shout though. Because there's no narrative or album to tour this time they could really have some fun with this.
  4. I was thinking they would do the JT 2017 set up just without the actual Tree on the screen. But now they're doing arenas could we see a return to the heart from Elevation + Vertigo?
  5. I do believe the JT tour was necessary for them to play the i+e/e+i tours. TJT doesn't fit the experience narrative, and it would feel odd diminish its role in the tour, specially considering the anniversary.

    So I do believe they decided to go with a full JT30 tour in order to put it in front and center of the ie+ei narrative, while at the same time really honoring, while at the same time playing some songs that otherwise wouldn't be played ever or ever again, while at the same time making a point of the parallels of times now vs 30 years ago, while at the same time cashing on a tour to pay for their expensive shows that they really loved in the ie+ei tours.

    Now, about if they're releasing albums and touring BECAUSE they're forced to do it due to a contract with LiveNation... I HOPE THAT'S THE CASE.
    Otherwise we would get 1 album and a tour every 10 years, and now I'm hoping they are forced to release another couple of albums in the next 5 years.
    And their best work is when you don't believe they exist they don't get the chance to overthink what they do.
  6. I don’t want to get myself back into the discussion about the livenation contract when it comes to touring even though I enjoyed the debate but they definitely don’t have a say about when u2 release material. That was made clear when they signed for livenation. I guess if you’re of the belief that livenation do have final say on touring then that would maybe lead to the band wanting to work harder to release albums to fit into the tour schedule set out by livenation. The band do have a seperate deal I think with universal for there albums.
  7. For all the blue balls Australia got on the last 3 tours, now they might be getting something unique that the rest of the world won't get.

    That's gotta make up for it a little bit, right?


  8. Let's renew our U2.com subscriptions for possible presales. Australia is a bit far away with relatively high flight fares, but some places in Asia get pretty good flight deals depending on the time of year. ...for now, I'm not booking any autumn breaks yet and see if en when something pops up..
  9. Originally posted by deanallison:[..]
    That doesn’t prove anything thats just a link that states that u2 have an agreement with live nation. It doesn’t say live nation get to decide when u2 tour. What I will say having read a few comments I do think it’s possible u2 did become obliged to tour in 2017 or suffer a financial loss because of staff etc (something u2 wouldn’t do live nation or no live nation) if they already put plans in place. However the key point is I still think the band made that initial decision to tour in 2017 and perhaps created there own problem when the album wasn’t ready. As I say even if they weren’t partners with livenation they would have to financially paid if they hadn’t toured and already had plans in place so the best solution was to do a different tour giving them time to work on the new album.


    I mean I am telling you here and now with knowledge that that's exactly how those contracts work...U2 "owes" Live Nation X many tours by a certain date, and they needed to shoe in a JT tour to fulfill it. It's literally what happened. I know that.

    The financial losses you're indicating aren't suffered by a tour until the date plays. Touring crews are enormous, yes, but often pale in comparison to local crews needed to build a tour in each city. There is literally no expense to canceling that labor, save for maybe doing it day-of-show. They did not have the dates for the E&I dates confirmed (I know this as well) which means they would have no hotel expense, booked crew expense, etc, etc.

    They made the decision to tour in 2017, yes, but when the album wasn't ready and they still needed to tour, they had to do something.

    This is, quite literally, how it happened. There has been so much discussion and back-and-forth over something that is known. If anyone somehow absolutely needs the concrete proof of this, just PM me.


  10. Yeah I don't know how else to say it without sounding like an asshole but I do this stuff for a living. If people are tired of doing these mental gymnastics to try to figure U2 out, feel free to get in touch.
  11. Originally posted by MattG:[..]


    I mean I am telling you here and now with knowledge that that's exactly how those contracts work...U2 "owes" Live Nation X many tours by a certain date, and they needed to shoe in a JT tour to fulfill it. It's literally what happened. I know that.

    The financial losses you're indicating aren't suffered by a tour until the date plays. Touring crews are enormous, yes, but often pale in comparison to local crews needed to build a tour in each city. There is literally no expense to canceling that labor, save for maybe doing it day-of-show. They did not have the dates for the E&I dates confirmed (I know this as well) which means they would have no hotel expense, booked crew expense, etc, etc.

    They made the decision to tour in 2017, yes, but when the album wasn't ready and they still needed to tour, they had to do something.

    This is, quite literally, how it happened. There has been so much discussion and back-and-forth over something that is known. If anyone somehow absolutely needs the concrete proof of this, just PM me.
    Lmao. Some will still argue with you.
  12. Originally posted by MattG:[..]


    I mean I am telling you here and now with knowledge that that's exactly how those contracts work...U2 "owes" Live Nation X many tours by a certain date, and they needed to shoe in a JT tour to fulfill it. It's literally what happened. I know that.

    The financial losses you're indicating aren't suffered by a tour until the date plays. Touring crews are enormous, yes, but often pale in comparison to local crews needed to build a tour in each city. There is literally no expense to canceling that labor, save for maybe doing it day-of-show. They did not have the dates for the E&I dates confirmed (I know this as well) which means they would have no hotel expense, booked crew expense, etc, etc.

    They made the decision to tour in 2017, yes, but when the album wasn't ready and they still needed to tour, they had to do something.

    This is, quite literally, how it happened. There has been so much discussion and back-and-forth over something that is known. If anyone somehow absolutely needs the concrete proof of this, just PM me.
    Yes Matt is correct. I can tell you that for sure.
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