Originally posted by mattfromcanada:I minimized my abbreviations on this post


Originally posted by mattfromcanada:I minimized my abbreviations on this post
Originally posted by LikeASong:[..]
ASOH in 2001 was a very different issue as they had not resurrected it and played it several times prior to that performance. It was improptu and, yes, a debacle. But it was quite nice in 2017, and having the song resurrected I know I'm not the only one who was just hoping to hear it in Dublin. It seemed so obvious. And it was a big, big disappointment - not only for me, I know at least a dozen of other fans that were pissed about it as well.
Originally posted by Blue_Room:[..]
Ummm, did you see the other posts and my own about ASOH? It has literally no attachment to Ireland and never has. To "expect" it was not from a rational perspective. If they played 2 nights, yes, probably but only because that is how the setlist rotation was working at that time. I think "fans" have attached it for no reason other than it has "Homecoming" in the title. To be pissed they didn't play it (or any other song) for that matter is ridiculous. Disappointed? a little bummed? maybe. But pissed? Or a big disappointment? Wow. Based on what in U2's history shows it is a song for Ireland? I know you didn't enjoy the Croke show, but I think you lost a tad of perspective on it. You were seeing one of the greatest bands ever play Dublin and you are pissed. I have been a fan for 35 years and have never had the opportunity to even go to Ireland, that alone get to see U2 play there. Sorry, but I think it is ridiculous that you are pissed or even majorly disappointed about it.
Originally posted by LikeASong:[..]
This is the band of my life. When I praise them I do it passionally... And when I criticise them I'm equally passionate - if not more, because I'm angry that they don't fulfill my expectations 100%.
You are probably very right telling me off for my opinion(s) over the Croke gig. I am very much aware that I might sound ungrateful, bitter or even childish about it, but I was expecting much more from that gig considering it was the first time since... well, ever? that the band played only one show at their home country in a given tour. We/I hoped for it to be the gig of the leg, but objectively it was just another gig with a band that seemed to go through the motions (in a tour that was uninspired in the first place, of course). Not playing ASOH was just the straw that broke the camel's back, but there was much more to it than that. Maybe if they had played I Will Follow at the end, the disappointment of not getting ASOH would have washed out a bit.
Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:[..]
While I did criticize being critical over them not playing one particular song, I can definitely agree with the sentiment that U2 should do a little more for their hometown gigs, it is odd that they don't. Hell, they played I Will Follow at the end of the show in Toronto because the crowd was so good - why wouldn't they do that in Ireland of all places?
I went to a hometown gig of a well-known Canadian band, Arkells last year, and it was fucking phenomenal. Not only did they play an extended set, a hometown song for their sports team, and a few other things - but the show itself was just dialed up to 11 compared to all of the other shows I've seen by them. They had free merch for everyone to mark the occasion, they had show-specific merch for that show, etc.Not only that, but they spent the day hanging with people around town, recommended food spots and other places to check out on their social media, even had a cycling parade to the gig lol.
It was obvious they were playing their hometown, and if nothing else, that should be expected from U2. That being said, I also don't think people should buy tickets expecting that, if that makes sense. Part of U2's ethos in performance is playing the best show they can to everyone, no matter where - so playing the same show they played everywhere else is sort of in-line with that thinking. I guess what I mean is, it's unsurprising that they don't do it, even if they should - especially if they're doing it elsewhere (i.e. I Will Follow in Toronto but not Croke, etc.).
Originally posted by LikeASong:[..]
This is the band of my life. When I praise them I do it passionally... And when I criticise them I'm equally passionate - if not more, because I'm angry that they don't fulfill my expectations 100%.
Originally posted by mattfromcanada:[..]
I fully agree with you on this Sergio. We defend U2 to great lengths to their critics, and we also have high expectations on them. Which I think is not coincidental that the band also hold themselves to a high standard. Also, I'll chime in on the ASOH chatter; perhaps it has a reference to Ireland / Dublin, perhaps it doesn't. If you listen back to some of the TUF gigs, and the intro that Bono gives to the song, it certainly does lend itself to feeling like you're at home (i.e the end lyric "for tonight at last I am coming home"). I think the home feeling is secondary to whether it's Dublin.
Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:[..]
While I did criticize being critical over them not playing one particular song, I can definitely agree with the sentiment that U2 should do a little more for their hometown gigs, it is odd that they don't. Hell, they played I Will Follow at the end of the show in Toronto because the crowd was so good - why wouldn't they do that in Ireland of all places?
I went to a hometown gig of a well-known Canadian band, Arkells last year, and it was fucking phenomenal. Not only did they play an extended set, a hometown song for their sports team, and a few other things - but the show itself was just dialed up to 11 compared to all of the other shows I've seen by them. They had free merch for everyone to mark the occasion, they had show-specific merch for that show, etc.Not only that, but they spent the day hanging with people around town, recommended food spots and other places to check out on their social media, even had a cycling parade to the gig lol.
It was obvious they were playing their hometown, and if nothing else, that should be expected from U2. That being said, I also don't think people should buy tickets expecting that, if that makes sense. Part of U2's ethos in performance is playing the best show they can to everyone, no matter where - so playing the same show they played everywhere else is sort of in-line with that thinking. I guess what I mean is, it's unsurprising that they don't do it, even if they should - especially if they're doing it elsewhere (i.e. I Will Follow in Toronto but not Croke, etc.).
Originally posted by mattfromcanada:[..]
Didn't know there was a fellow Golden Horseshoe representation here! Not a lot of U2 presence in GrimsbyBut being closed to The Hammer, we do have the Danial Lanois bragging rights! Yes, the Arkells are fantastic! I've personally not seen them, though I work with a couple that goes to see them every chance they can. I'm pretty sure they were at the show you are alluding to at
Ivor WynneTim Horton's Field. And yes, every hometown show should be the best. I too was surprised that there was only 1 Croke Gig. And yes, the energy at JT2017 at
SkydomeRogers Centre was unreal. I remember bawling all the way through 'Bad', and yes I will concede that IWF was outstanding.