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  1. Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:
    Lol - I think that's maybe why it bummed me out the most at first. I thought it was really refreshing to hear a guitar part from Edge that you wouldn't otherwise hear from him - to me it was a great example of him still having it in him to come up with something that surprises me - but obviously that wasn't the case.

    I guess some people don't mind the idea that the four guys in U2 might not have written a particular part that they're (the listener) might be emotionally attached to. But me? It bums me out. It's the carpet being pulled from under me. "Man, I really love this guitar part that Edge wrote, how cool is that? After all this time, he can still surprise me" - "Edge didn't write that, and Bono didn't even write that hook" - "oh...".



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    It was a total disappointment for me - when I realised the story behind The Summer of Love ...
  2. +1 -because also I often have still the wrong picture in my head, that there are four band members in the studio. Bursting in creativity. Bono, as in some old photograph, on the floor unstoppable writing some of rock‘s finest lyrics. The band in a circle reinventing rock music. Again, as part of this is or was reality, this complete picture is wrong. It is just wishful thinking from a hardcore fan’s perspective. Why?

    From the early stages on, from the early records on, the producer‘s role has been at least a kind of 5th member. Take the old TJT documentary - while Bono has had a hard time remembering musical details, Danny knew EVERY detail. Prepared for the doku, yes, but take for example „Running To Stand Still“. It became that anthem with The Edge improvising on some piano chords - and Danny being awake, alert, to play the original guitar parts. Then Edge later overdubbed slide guitar improvising on this basis. Take „ One“, take ... Daniel Lanois is much more than a Controller. Much more than just inspiring. He IS a professional and versatile musician. Regarding his musical contribution he IS the 5th member of U2 for sure. U2 albums produced by him are also Lanois albums.

    Then: Take the keyboard and strings, the intros from TUF until TJT. Take ZOO intro- this is very much the art and handcraft of the ambience guru Brian Eno. Take the still brilliant low-fi, beat driven concept and sound monster POP - Howie B. made this happen.

    So, another borrowed/‚stolen’ riff in SOL? A disappointment. A delusion, yes. But reality and not that big of an issue, when you dare to think/talk about how important prerecorded parts and playback elements unfortunately have become more and more important in U2 so-called live concerts. Terry in the underworld? Dallas and the Edge orchestra under the stage - can you hear us? But in the end: This is how it is. No need to bash, but no need to hide either, I think.
  3. Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:[..]
    I can't find the scene from From the Sky Down I'm referring to online - but it's when they're back in Dublin in the studio and there's a quick scene of Lanois, Eno and Flood jamming to a One backing track, and Lanois is playing that guitar part - and then in the proceeding scene when the band are listening back, Edge says something about Lanois' guitar part - making me think he wrote it, not Edge.



    06:28
    Daniel Lanois is the fifth member of U2 - no doubt at all!
  4. Yeh Summer of Love was lifted from this intro wasn't it?

  5. This is really interesting. Brilliant actually!

    I just knew Hendrix was the inspiration for the One riff. Specifically I'd say Little Wing!
  6. Yeah that's crazy, although I guess it's like how so many of Adam's awesome bass lines were later confirmed to be written by Edge

    I listened to Achtung Baby yesterday in full, I hadn't in a long time. I obviously don't need to tell you guys this, but it's fucking insane just how good that album is. Every song could be a single, every song has some of Bono's best lyrics, Edge's best guitar parts, Larry's most interesting drumming, Adam's catchiest basslines, and so on. Making Zooropa right after made complete sense because you can just hear on that album how much creative juice they had built up and ready to use. And the album just keeps on giving, man. You get to TTTYAATW and you're like "alright it's starting to peter out now" but nah, the last three songs on the album are just total chaos and pure musical bliss. It's sad how much Achtung Baby gets overshadowed by the Joshua Tree to pretty much anyone outside the U2 fandom, because it really is a masterpiece.

    And that's not even taking into consideration how the whole project was a masterclass in reinvention. It's a 10/10 album on its own, but when you understand the context, the band before that album, all of it - it becomes a 100/10 album. I wish I was old enough at that time to have been around for it, to get completely mind-fucked by it. I love hearing stories of those U2 fans who were.
  7. COME BACK DANNY
  8. Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:Yeah that's crazy, although I guess it's like how so many of Adam's awesome bass lines were later confirmed to be written by Edge

    I listened to Achtung Baby yesterday in full, I hadn't in a long time. I obviously don't need to tell you guys this, but it's fucking insane just how good that album is. Every song could be a single, every song has some of Bono's best lyrics, Edge's best guitar parts, Larry's most interesting drumming, Adam's catchiest basslines, and so on. Making Zooropa right after made complete sense because you can just hear on that album how much creative juice they had built up and ready to use. And the album just keeps on giving, man. You get to TTTYAATW and you're like "alright it's starting to peter out now" but nah, the last three songs on the album are just total chaos and pure musical bliss. It's sad how much Achtung Baby gets overshadowed by the Joshua Tree to pretty much anyone outside the U2 fandom, because it really is a masterpiece.

    And that's not even taking into consideration how the whole project was a masterclass in reinvention. It's a 10/10 album on its own, but when you understand the context, the band before that album, all of it - it becomes a 100/10 album. I wish I was old enough at that time to have been around for it, to get completely mind-fucked by it. I love hearing stories of those U2 fans who were.
    Imagine hearing a radio announcement for the new, highly anticipated U2 single, and then hearing The Fly for the first time, be completely blown away by the weirdness of it all...and then plug-in the vinyl or CD and hear Zoo Station. I really think AB must be the best reinvention of a band, ever.
  9. Danny lanois needs to get back in the studio with U2
    HE JUST DOES!
    they are not the same without him and Eno
    sorry but their experiment using these other young producers are not what U2 needs as evidenced by the sound of the last 2 albums.
    can the fans petition for them to rehire Lanois and Eno?
  10. Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:Yeah that's crazy, although I guess it's like how so many of Adam's awesome bass lines were later confirmed to be written by Edge

    I listened to Achtung Baby yesterday in full, I hadn't in a long time. I obviously don't need to tell you guys this, but it's fucking insane just how good that album is. Every song could be a single, every song has some of Bono's best lyrics, Edge's best guitar parts, Larry's most interesting drumming, Adam's catchiest basslines, and so on. Making Zooropa right after made complete sense because you can just hear on that album how much creative juice they had built up and ready to use. And the album just keeps on giving, man. You get to TTTYAATW and you're like "alright it's starting to peter out now" but nah, the last three songs on the album are just total chaos and pure musical bliss. It's sad how much Achtung Baby gets overshadowed by the Joshua Tree to pretty much anyone outside the U2 fandom, because it really is a masterpiece.

    And that's not even taking into consideration how the whole project was a masterclass in reinvention. It's a 10/10 album on its own, but when you understand the context, the band before that album, all of it - it becomes a 100/10 album. I wish I was old enough at that time to have been around for it, to get completely mind-fucked by it. I love hearing stories of those U2 fans who were.
    Bass lines written by Edge - Not New Years Day
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