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  1. Aren't we all going to be disappointed when the live album in the set is just the Slane DVD rip pressed on vinyl
  2. When that happens, and it will, yes.
  3. Originally posted by KieranU2:[..]
    I would honestly love to find one person who had been following the band since the 80s to establish if the ATYCLB songs irked them at the time because it might be just as popular as the old stuff but adamant that it's not as good. I just don't get that mentality at all.


    My former aunt (divorced my uncle) was a huge U2 fan in the 80's. She saw the Joshua Tree and ZooTV tours in Cleveland (she showed me the ticket stubs). When I first discovered U2 in 1995 at age 13, she actually gave me her copy of Achtung Baby. Her quote as she gave it to me was "That one was a little weird...". When I attended my first U2 show (Columbus Popmart), she told me she had no desire to go, they weren't the same band anymore. Shortly after that they got divorced, and I barely have seen her since.

    However, we are facebook friends, and I did see that she and her new husband were at the JT17 concert in Cleveland, same one I was at! Her FB post seemed to indicate that she enjoyed it, so at some point she came back around. Maybe ATYCLB helped with that?
  4. I'll honestly be fine with that. It's a great show.
  8. I never liked that ATYCLB was such a safe album. After The Sweetest Thing was such a hit, i felt like they began chasing acceptance rather than confrontation on their albums, to leave the challenging stuff behind. Which was fine, it’s all good. Maybe it’s who they really are, the safe rock, and they really did spend the nineties trying not to be themselves. They just delivered so much with achtungzooropapassengerspop, and yet only Achtung gets a deluxe release. But hey, grammy’s and all that, must be good.
    They never lost me as a fan, i was at 3 elevation shows incl. Slane1, and i think side 1 of ATYCLB, especially Stuck In A Moment, is a fine set of songs. But the rest is filler no killer and as a whole the album never finds lift off.
  9. Originally posted by popmarter:[..]
    The shift from Joshua tree/Rattle& Hum to Achtung baby was colossal they lost a lot of fans from the 80s people who followed them because of their political messages and Christian themed songs, I know a lot of people who stopped listening to them after Bono started wearing his fly goggles they just couldn't take him seriously anymore ,now obviously it was a well calculated move and they knew exactly what they were doing as they were tired of playing the self righteous and pompous Rock band and wanted to have fun with it ,with ALTYCLB they did get some of the deserters back as the album was a return to more familiar ground and the tunes were more direct and melodic.


    The transition from JT + R&H to AB amazes me, to go from delusions of gradeur to self-aware to jovial and derision. They're probably one of the few bands to admit that music critics and their fans are right.

    A lot of critics nowadays say the band has too much pride, but it takes a lot for a band to guide the direction they're going and reassess. They admitted their mistakes. Especially how extravagantly U2 reshaped their image. You can't deny they're one of the greatest rock bands ever for that reason alone.
  10. Originally posted by polarbearu2:I never liked that ATYCLB was such a safe album. After The Sweetest Thing was such a hit, i felt like they began chasing acceptance rather than confrontation on their albums, to leave the challenging stuff behind. Which was fine, it’s all good. Maybe it’s who they really are, the safe rock, and they really did spend the nineties trying not to be themselves. They just delivered so much with achtungzooropapassengerspop, and yet only Achtung gets a deluxe release. But hey, grammy’s and all that, must be good.
    They never lost me as a fan, i was at 3 elevation shows incl. Slane1, and i think side 1 of ATYCLB, especially Stuck In A Moment, is a fine set of songs. But the rest is filler no killer and as a whole the album never finds lift off.
    They had to get back to what they were good at and that is 4 guys playing in a room, all this experimental music they did in the 90s was down to a lot of top producers putting their stamp all over their music particularly Eno who was given a free pass to add all these experimental sounds on Achtung baby and Zooropa even going back to Unforgettable Fire Eno/Lanois created a lot of the sounds on that album they really should have gotten part of the song writing credits for it , with Pop they lost a lot of fans particularly in the US where the album and tour wasn't recieved well so it was time to play to their strengths and write some more organic straight forward songs .
  11. If anything, it’s remarkable that this 20 year old album is still discussed as the last course correction that U2 made.
  12. my father said that this is the second album i listened to the most from U2 as a child, I stopped listening to it when I discovered the 90's. Today, time has passed and I am 17 and after never playing it (not to mention elevation and BD) I go back to listen to it and I got a certain feeling of nostalgia about it, strongly the 2000's remind me of when I was a baby and I was born listening to U2
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