1. Not a popular opinion here, but I think that Zooropa is U2 their worst record. Only 2 good songs, the rest I would not call a song.
  2. ATYCLB saved their careers.
  3. Originally posted by KieranU2:[..]
    A lot of people complain about the production, especially on here. All I'd advise is, sit down and carefully listen to the album with headphones. The "most songs are better live" is irrelevant in this context.

    I've never heard ATYCLB get so much praise. It's a good album, but come on.
    ‘Most songs are better live‘ is completely relevant. Like most of U2’s work I enjoy the album versions but prefer the live versions. So the songs sounding slightly inferior on the album doesn’t put me off it because I feel that way about most of U2’s work and I think most fans do. I still stand by my praise. I really don’t think there’s a bad song on it. In terms of production the only songs I’d particularly agree on are elevation and in a little while not sounding quite right on the album. The rest of the album is a very good listen from production to just overall song quality. I also stand by my point that a good bit of its dislike is from people who don’t like the fact a new u2 song/album gains more success and popularity than older stuff they were into. You might find it hard to believe how much praise I give ATYCLB, I find it hard to believe how people can rate any of the first 4 albums amongst the bands best stuff. Maybe Boy at a push for being consistently strong but the next 3 albums all have so many average/poor moments compared to the bands later work. I say that as someone completely unbiased. I just don’t think it’s fair some of the criticism towards songs like grace and wild honey when you’ve got some absolute stinkers on some of the early work. But it’s just all opinions and I think fans that got into u2 in the early days find the more rock star and commercially successful image of the band not as appealing as when they first got into them and it all has an impact on how they view the music.
  4. Originally posted by ferrari:[..]
    Not a popular opinion here, but I think that Zooropa is U2 their worst record. Only 2 good songs, the rest I would not call a song.
    I’ve never read that from you before.
  5. Originally posted by deanallison:[..]
    ‘Most songs are better live‘ is completely relevant. Like most of U2’s work I enjoy the album versions but prefer the live versions. So the songs sounding slightly inferior on the album doesn’t put me off it because I feel that way about most of U2’s work and I think most fans do. I still stand by my praise. I really don’t think there’s a bad song on it. In terms of production the only songs I’d particularly agree on are elevation and in a little while not sounding quite right on the album. The rest of the album is a very good listen from production to just overall song quality. I also stand by my point that a good bit of its dislike is from people who don’t like the fact a new u2 song/album gains more success and popularity than older stuff they were into. You might find it hard to believe how much praise I give ATYCLB, I find it hard to believe how people can rate any of the first 4 albums amongst the bands best stuff. Maybe Boy at a push for being consistently strong but the next 3 albums all have so many average/poor moments compared to the bands later work. I say that as someone completely unbiased. I just don’t think it’s fair some of the criticism towards songs like grace and wild honey when you’ve got some absolute stinkers on some of the early work. But it’s just all opinions and I think fans that got into u2 in the early days find the more rock star and commercially successful image of the band not as appealing as when they first got into them and it all has an impact on how they view the music.
    I couldn’t have said this any better.
  6. Originally posted by ferrari:[..]
    Not a popular opinion here, but I think that Zooropa is U2 their worst record. Only 2 good songs, the rest I would not call a song.
    Maybe you should try again. Back in the day at first listen i hated it... But after 10 spins... It’s one of their most coherent records and had a great Vibe. Everyting after atyclb is worst than zooropa. I think zooropa is my favorite u2 album although if you’re ask i say AB. But i take zooropa a spin most.
  7. Originally posted by KieranU2:[..]
    A lot of people complain about the production, especially on here. All I'd advise is, sit down and carefully listen to the album with headphones. The "most songs are better live" is irrelevant in this context.

    I've never heard ATYCLB get so much praise. It's a good album, but come on.


    Another from this era is The Hands That Built America. That sounds terrible imo.
  8. +1 The live versions are inferior to the studio
  9. I was talking about the studio version. I think I remember looking at the song in Audacity and I swear it was close to or even clipping.
  10. Originally posted by Welsh_Edge:[..]
    I was talking about the studio version. I think I remember looking at the song in Audacity and I swear it was close to or even clipping.
    Oh i never noticed. Only version I listen to is the Gangs of New York movie version with the longer intro
  11. I guess it's too trebly? Mid/highs are piercing but as a whole it isn't 'brickwalled' like Miracle Drug for example