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  1. Remastered this one from the original FLAC-files. Merged Staring at the Sun with Discotheque, Amazing Grace with One and I Remember You with Walk On. More body and bass overall, removed some hiss. Still some crowd noise might sound slightly distorted. This is a taping issue and has nothing to do with this remaster. Credtis to the original taper for doing an excellent job.

    This show is next to be reviewed in the BTR. If you wanna join, let it be known in the right topic.

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    2001-04-15 Portland, Oregon - Rose Garden [UPGRADE]
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    Setlist
    Elevation / Creep (snippet)
    Beautiful Day
    Until The End Of The World
    New Year's Day
    Stuck In A Moment You Can't Get Out Of
    Gone
    Discothèque / Devil Inside (snippet) / Staring At The Sun (snippet)
    New York
    I Will Follow
    Sunday Bloody Sunday / Could You Be Loved (snippet) / Get Up Stand Up (snippet)
    Sweetest Thing
    In A Little While
    Desire
    The Ground Beneath Her Feet
    Bad / 40 (snippet)
    Psalm 116 (snippet) / Where The Streets Have No Name
    Mysterious Ways / Sexual Healing (snippet)
    The Fly

    encore(s):
    Bullet The Blue Sky / Whole Lotta Love (snippet)
    With Or Without You
    Pride (In The Name Of Love)
    One / Amazing Grace (snippet)
    Walk On

    Links:
    Part 1: http://rapidshare.com/files/112458674/Elevation_Portland_2001-04-15_Part_1.rar
    Part 2: http://rapidshare.com/files/112461306/Elevation_Portland_2001-04-15_Part_2.rar
  2. Thank you for this great update
  3. Originally posted by stefano1973Thank you for this great update


    Hi Stefano!
  4. i'm gonna be an old sod here and say that after my first comparison i'm edging towards the untouched copy. Caspers work is great and you can hear how much better it is mastering then converting but you can still hear that the show has been tampered with. It has a slight tinny feeling to it. I've only compared Bad from each show so i'll listen to a few more songs. It's all preference. Similar to the old 'beautiful women are always better looking without their make up' theory.

    I'll listen again and hopefully my opinion will differ

    edit : Had another listen to a few of the heavier tracks. The newer version is marginally better for heavier songs but that electronic interference is magnified. I can get the same remastered results from the oringinal by messing around with the EQ in itunes. Think i'm sticking with the tapers original on this one
  5. Originally posted by germcevoyi'm gonna be an old sod here and say that after my first comparison i'm edging towards the untouched copy. Caspers work is great and you can hear how much better it is mastering then converting but you can still hear that the show has been tampered with. It has a slight tinny feeling to it. I've only compared Bad from each show so i'll listen to a few more songs. It's all preference. Similar to the old 'beautiful women are always better looking without their make up' theory.

    I'll listen again and hopefully my opinion will differ

    edit : Had another listen to a few of the heavier tracks. The newer version is marginally better for heavier songs but that electronic interference is magnified. I can get the same remastered results from the oringinal by messing around with the EQ in itunes. Think i'm sticking with the tapers original on this one


    To each their own mate..but with a tinny feeling, do you mean the sound almost get's distorted?? It's at least better than the one posted here for sure.
  6. Originally posted by MWSAH[..]

    To each their own mate..but with a tinny feeling, do you mean the sound almost get's distorted?? It's at least better than the one posted here for sure.


    hard to explain the 'tinny' thing. The sound isn't exactly distorted as such, it definitely sounds like it has been tampered with, the electronic noise has got louder (see The Fly intro). I personally do not think it's a noticeable upgrade. It is most likely better than what is on here now (god knows what the current version is). I'd be happy replacing the current links with the untouched files from the same source you remastered. We shall see what others have to say. I'm a picky bitch.
  7. Originally posted by germcevoy[..]

    hard to explain the 'tinny' thing. The sound isn't exactly distorted as such, it definitely sounds like it has been tampered with, the electronic noise has got louder (see The Fly intro). I personally do not think it's a noticeable upgrade. It is most likely better than what is on here now (god knows what the current version is). I'd be happy replacing the current links with the untouched files from the same source you remastered. We shall see what others have to say. I'm a picky bitch.


    Allright..well, in the program I use, there's an 3-band compressor where you can bring the sound to the foreground, or something like that. It means that the sound is more prominent. Maybe that's what you mean...

    Anyway: When I compare the sound trough my Sennheisers, there's definately a difference...but that doesn't say it's better of course.
  8. Originally posted by MWSAH[..]

    Allright..well, in the program I use, there's an 3-band compressor where you can bring the sound to the foreground, or something like that. It means that the sound is more prominent. Maybe that's what you mean...

    Anyway: When I compare the sound trough my Sennheisers, there's definately a difference...but that doesn't say it's better of course.


    Some elements definitely are more prominent, most noticeably Bono's vocals. The bass is louder but not much clearer. I can't compare through earphones as the feckin things broke but through my speaker the difference is minimal and not to beneficial to my ears. Messing around with my EQ seems to offer a prefered improvement to my ears (that is in no way playing down the effort you made working on this show )
  9. Originally posted by germcevoy[..]

    Some elements definitely are more prominent, most noticeably Bono's vocals. The bass is louder but not much clearer. I can't compare through earphones as the feckin things broke but through my speaker the difference is minimal and not to beneficial to my ears. Messing around with my EQ seems to offer a prefered improvement to my ears (that is in no way playing down the effort you made working on this show )


    I understand, always good to hear feedback, you know that. I agree about the electronical stuff you talked about during The Fly intro...There certainly is a way to fix it. You can go a lot of ways while remastering. I usually take the road which is best for my ears, but we all have different tastes. I definately could remove this electronical kind of sound, but maybe others like it. That's a difficult thing about remastering, I think.
  10. Originally posted by MWSAH[..]

    I understand, always good to hear feedback, you know that. I agree about the electronical stuff you talked about during The Fly intro...There certainly is a way to fix it. You can go a lot of ways while remastering. I usually take the road which is best for my ears, but we all have different tastes. I definately could remove this electronical kind of sound, but maybe others like it. That's a difficult thing about remastering, I think.


    It's impossible to cater to all tastes. I'm just a bit of a purist when it comes to audience recordings and 99.9% of the time i'll prefer what the tapers effort resulted in. If the guy has made the effort and spent the money to travel to and record a gig for our benefit, I prefer to listen to what he came up with rather than an ammended version. Thats just me though. Everybody's different (and in most cases, not as picky as me)
  11. Originally posted by germcevoy[..]

    It's impossible to cater to all tastes. I'm just a bit of a purist when it comes to audience recordings and 99.9% of the time i'll prefer what the tapers effort resulted in. If the guy has made the effort and spent the money to travel to and record a gig for our benefit, I prefer to listen to what he came up with rather than an ammended version. Thats just me though. Everybody's different (and in most cases, not as picky as me)


    Agree on that one. All credits to the tapers for sure, but when I hear a show with room for improvement, I can't watch from the sideline doing nothing. Anyway...the show is there, I posted it in my own topic, so it's available for those who want it. And for the BTR...the songs are the same. You might upload the untouched FLAC-conversion to this place, because the one posted here is the weakest one of the three 'sources' we now have.
  12. So what should we do re: the BRT? Keep as is, or use the new links? Kind of seems important that everyone listen to the same show, right?
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