E&I Tour - General topic

Originally posted by popmarter:[..]
A lot of the concept of Innocence and experience is lost on most people they wanna see the band rocking out playing their best songs with a few surprises thrown in not some Broadway show that is made to order and void of spontaneity, one of U2s mantra was always about taking risks and giving people something that they are not expecting but for a band that has such a massive back catalogue they should gamble and throw in a few curve balls ,they've nothing to lose at this stage.

Originally posted by Remy:[..]
True. 99% of the audience has no clue about a "narrative" and doesn't understand. And why would they. If I go to band X or Y I wouldn't understand (or even pay attention, or think about) a possible narrative either.

Originally posted by Bloodraven:[..]
For what I've read in the reviews, the show still works for most people even if they don't get the narrative; the main source of disappointment being the lack of big hits (which is a huge risk they're taking). Most people even love the SBS version, even if it's not popular among the hardcore online fan base.

Then, it's only the people that follows closely the set lists every night that some get upset about it, but it's a very small fraction in the end.

Like BEB said, they're doing the show they want to do, and quite well, even if it's not 100% the show we'd want.
They're taking lots of risks and throwing a lot of curve balls, is just that those are not the risks or curve balls that everybody wants. They may as well be thinking something on the lines of "We may lose some of the 'pop-kids', but we don't need them anyway"

IMHO, i+e/e+i is the best tour after ZooTV/Zooropa.

Originally posted by blueeyedboy:[..]
Well said, Bloodraven. (and FYI - that's one of my favorite interviews of all time. I was at that show!) There's so much irony in the statement that they should "gamble", as that's kind of what they're doing, don't ya think? Doing it the U2 way... sticking to their guns. (Like Noel Gallagher said they always do)

[YouTube Video]

1992 or 2018?

Reporter: "A lot of the fans we talked to afterwards were wondering why you guys made the decision to not do some of the stuff from the earlier albums"

Bono: "Didn't want to"

Reporter: "Had enough of doing that over the years already?"

Bono: "It just wasn't what we were feeling.Right now we're into ZooTV (insert SOE here) You know, that's where we're at"

Bono: "I'm into. We're into. And I really think the real U2 fans that have been around, they'll be into it. We might lose some of the pop kids, but... we don't need them. I'm gonna go..."

Originally posted by blueeyedboy:[..]
Well said, Bloodraven. (and FYI - that's one of my favorite interviews of all time. I was at that show!) There's so much irony in the statement that they should "gamble", as that's kind of what they're doing, don't ya think? Doing it the U2 way... sticking to their guns. (Like Noel Gallagher said they always do)

[YouTube Video]

1992 or 2018?

Reporter: "A lot of the fans we talked to afterwards were wondering why you guys made the decision to not do some of the stuff from the earlier albums"

Bono: "Didn't want to"

Reporter: "Had enough of doing that over the years already?"

Bono: "It just wasn't what we were feeling.Right now we're into ZooTV (insert SOE here) You know, that's where we're at"

Bono: "I'm into. We're into. And I really think the real U2 fans that have been around, they'll be into it. We might lose some of the pop kids, but... we don't need them. I'm gonna go..."

Originally posted by popmarter:[..]
That interview is so fake he's just putting on his Fly character as he believed he was so uptight and self righteous in the 80s this was the first time most ppl had seen the new Bono ,OK they are taking a risk playing songs from the last 2 albums but they shouldn't be so rigid where they can't change the setlist by 5 or 6 songs a night especially where they are doing multiple nights in one city .

Originally posted by blueeyedboy:MoFoNYR15 you've been to an e/i show already?

Originally posted by MoFoNYR15:[..]
No but let me spare you the point you’re gonna make. I’m happy you enjoyed your shows. For every positive review I read, it excites me about my upcoming shows. I don’t need to see the show in person to know there’s a better setlist to be put forward. This is a concert. Not a concept album. What works on an album doesn’t always work in person. Those are my feelings and I hope I absolutely love my upcoming shows.

Originally posted by popmarter:Production!that's what most people have a problem with it

Originally posted by popmarter:it should be loose and spontaneous where anything can happen U2 are a Rock band not some theatre company they shouldn't have to notify there crew of a set change or the guy doing the images on the screen 2 days in advance so he can come up with some appropriate images .They've so many song's that could easily relate to what they are doing with E&I most U2 song's are generally about spiritual imagery and personal and socio political themes so it shouldn't be kept to a select few that make the setlist.

Originally posted by jasvan:[..]
Disagree, I don’t think Bono was fully into or understanding “The Fly” that early on and what it was going to be. I was at that show and remember that time very well. They were in there early 30’s and had some great new music and sound and didn’t care. Even Larry said he was over playing those songs after Lovetown.
And changing sets by 5-6 songs a night is silly for what the production is for this tour.
It’s story with maybe room for 2 song changed out. And reading Adam interview with RS should show that.