The Edges guitars and effects

Originally posted by thefly07not sure if it's been discussed but I wonder why Edge switched Rickenbacher's for Mysterious Ways on the Vertigo tour. That song just looks better with the red one

Originally posted by anstratdubh1979[..]- A 1965 fireglo Rickenbacker 330 12-string was used for the recording and live airings of "Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own". It was tuned to standard E-tuning. - Mysterious Ways is tuned to E-Flat. Tuning and re-tuning a 12 string when Dallas has TONS of other things to do and look after in a show is not the best option hence...

- The 1966 mapleglo (name of finish) Rickenbacker 330 12-string was tuned to E-flat for "Mysterious Ways" (as that is the key they play the song in)

Originally posted by WojBhoy[..]
I noticed that on Vertigo tour, they moved it up to B rather than Bb (as it would be on an Eb tuning...) - so it seems weird to use 2 different Ricks considering, as you say, he uses the fireglo for SYCMIOYO and the other one for Mysterious Ways when they're both (using Vertigo Tour as a basis) in the same tuning, although obviously not different keys...just thought I'd throw that into the ring...

Originally posted by anstratdubh1979[..]


From what Dallas told me, "Mysterious Ways" is playing in E-flat and "Sometimes..." in standard E.

But I will go home and double check. It could have been in E-flat and then changed to E later

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In the picture above, the chord Edge is playing is at the 12 fret. That would be an E on a standard tuned guitar but is an E-flat on the mapleglo Ric as it's tuned to E-Flat.

I will do a bit of investigating. I have guitars tune to E-Flat and E... It will be as simple as playing along to a Vertigo tour recording and seeing which guitar is in tune with the tune.

Originally posted by WojBhoy[..]
Well, I just listened to the album and live versions up until Vertigo and they're in Bb (keywise, i.e. tuned to Eb you'd have thought), but listening to the Vertigo versions that I have (not all of them, but I have a few) you can here the different key, and I checked on the piano just to make sure, and the Vertigo versions (THAT I've listened to) are in B. Just stick say a ZooTV performance on, and then a Vertigo one, and I'm fairly sure you'll hear the difference They may have changed the key during the tour, but considering the Chicago version is in B, either they changed early on or went back to Bb later on, which may be what Dallas was remembering if your memory serves.

Doesn't mean I know anything about the tuning etc. lol, I just know they're in different keys

Originally posted by anstratdubh1979[..]

You may be right. And maybe they changed it due to what Bono felt comfortable singing. Like I said, I will give it a go when I get off work.

I don't mind if they did change from E-Flat to E. Higher keys sound more urgent and energetic. Case in point, "Sunday Bloody Sunday" is not so great tuned down to D (if memory serves)

Originally posted by WojBhoy[..]
EDIT - Well, if that's referring to Vertigo versions, I think they were in Ab minor (if MY memory serves now )? So if they drop it down all that way, I hate to think what tuning that is lol (assuming Edge played the riff the same way as he does in standard/Eb tuning...)

SBS always confuses me, I'm never sure what he uses for the drone notes on the solo, and also like you say, he changes the changing all the flipping time lol

Originally posted by anstratdubh1979[..]

- Most guitars are in standard E tuning. (low string to high string: E-A-D-G-B-E
- Not to be mixed up with OPEN E tuning.
- Most early U2 songs (Boy - The Joshua Tree) were in E-flat: Eflat-Aflat-Dflat-Gflat-Bflat-Eflat.

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"I Still Haven't Found..." was played on a guitar in E-flat with a capo at the 5th fret (4th fret if tuned in E) for the album. For a while, it was played with a capo at the 3rd fret (live) and the last few tours it's been played with a capo on the 2nd fret...

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...there have been songs that were traditionally played in E-flat that have been being played in E. "I Will Follow" (Elevation tour), if memory serves, being an example.

Originally posted by WojBhoy[..]
I Will Follow was retained in E for Vertigo too

Just to say (in case it's what you thought, if it isn't I apologise ), I didn't mean I don't understand the whole tuning lark (i.e. I know most guitars are in standard tuning - unless of course you meant most of Edge's guitars are in standard E), I myself tune all my guitars to Eb because I'm perfectly comfortable with sticking the capo on the 1st fret, but a lot of my friends seem to have trouble using capos lol!).

PS: since you brought it up lol, open E - is that as in where the strings are tuned to the chord of E, e.g. for slide guitar?

NB - In case we're getting in a kefuffle, I usually refer to songs in the actual key they're in rather than the tuning, which I'm guessing you're talking about because SBS was not played (key-wise) in Eb or Db lol...

I was interested to read about what you said re. ISHFWILF, I always wondered how they worked out the guitar part because I remember it was one of the songs I first tried to learn when I took up guitar (chords I mean, rather than the actual bit Edge plays live - I only worked out how to play that a couple of months ago!), but it irritated because I worked out the song itself was in Db, but at the time I hadn't encountered alternative tunings and capos etc.! As ever Jeff, you throw up some great bits of info!

Originally posted by anstratdubh1979[..]

No worries and no offence. Like I've said, how I learn more is when people ask questions which point me in a direction to research.

And hey, there is a good chance you are right about M. Ways being in "E"! I will check when I get home.

No worries, there is no 'kerfuffle' just discussion and trading of information. And that ain't a bad thing.