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  1. Originally posted by haytrain:[..]

    Personally, I find it offensive when people suggest that it was a government conspiracy as well. And of course these guys listed are going to say that it wasn't an airplane that took the towers down, since they're the ones that actually designed the building and claimed from the beginning that it would hold up if a plane crashed into it. WHOOPS.


    Exactly.


  2. Only difference is that cigarettes kill yourself and not other people. It might sound hard but dying of cigarettes is your own stupid fault. Getting killed by a gun isn't always your own fault...


  3. as Mark said, it's your own fault if you die of lung cancer caused by smoking. but it doesn't seem to be your fault when someone shoots you...
  5. Originally posted by markp91:[..]

    Only difference is that cigarettes kill yourself and not other people. It might sound hard but dying of cigarettes is your own stupid fault. Getting killed by a gun isn't always your own fault...


    What do you think second-hand smoke does? Filtered cigaretes are actually more dangerous to others than the smoker.


  6. Yes, but if it REALLY bothers you (the smoke) than you will ask your friend/husband/wife/family if they want to try not smoking near you.
    You won't go to places where people smoke cigarette after cigarette.
    You can ask someone if they want to smoke outside.

    You can't ask someone if he/she wants to quit shooting at you.
  7. Originally posted by haytrain:[..]

    Personally, I find it offensive when people suggest that it was a government conspiracy as well. And of course these guys listed are going to say that it wasn't an airplane that took the towers down, since they're the ones that actually designed the building and claimed from the beginning that it would hold up if a plane crashed into it. WHOOPS.


    It's not "of course". They're respected people, so it would be insane in their position to claim that government killed 3000 people.

    And if you know at least a little physics, you know that it would be impossible for towers to crumble in a way the Twin Towers did.

    Try to build tower out of Lego's. Hit it on the top and only part on the top will tear down. Bottom will be untouched. But hit it on the bottom and whole thing will collapse. Simple as that. Towers were hit on the top and still they collapsed like they were hit on the bottom. Weird, isn't it?
  8. Originally posted by yuri31:[..]

    A bee stang me into my neck last summer and I think I would've felt the difference if it was worse than being shot by some gun. And by this I wanna defend bees because of our long family tradition of beekeeping. Bees are no way worse than shotguns. This example you told us is ridiculous, you have to come up with something better


    Its not ridiculous - people who are allergic to bee stings can die and often do.....more people die from bee stings than from violent crime - perhaps not by much, but still more.....
  9. Originally posted by Guenther:[..]

    Its not ridiculous - people who are allergic to bee stings can die and often do.....more people die from bee stings than from violent crime - perhaps not by much, but still more.....


    I don't believe it
  11. Originally posted by Guenther:[..]

    Its not ridiculous - people who are allergic to bee stings can die and often do.....more people die from bee stings than from violent crime - perhaps not by much, but still more.....


    Trust me, if I get killed by a bee sting then I'll invite you all to laugh at me.

    No, honestly, I think this could be true. But we never hear about these kind of cases. We only hear terrorism and planned murders in the media, but you'll never read an article about people who were stinged by a bee.
  12. Originally posted by markp91:[..]

    Trust me, if I get killed by a bee sting then I'll invite you all to laugh at me.

    No, honestly, I think this could be true. But we never hear about these kind of cases. We only hear terrorism and planned murders in the media, but you'll never read an article about people who were stinged by a bee.


    Well, go to Youtube and search for Bee Attack or Killer Bees...you won't see people die (it's Youtube afterall) but you get an impression. Be glad they don't live here in Holland.
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