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  1. So am I, but all parties in Holland are pretty centered. No real right or left wing parties. Only the PVV maybe.

    PVV gets my vote when the national elections are held this summer. Not because I agree with all his right winged statements (far from that). But he is the only one who dares to discuss issues in the multicultural society.

    Other parties give troubling kids (mostly Moroccan and Netherlands Antillian) money to party to keep them from the street A kick under the ass and forced labour I say. I'm not paying taxes for some spoiled brats to party while the good people need to pay 10 euro's to get in a club.

    Wilders is a lunatic, a government with him as premier won't last a year. But it would be a big lesson for other parties. I'd be ashamed if Balkenende becomes our premier for the 5th time in a row. He has no backbone and gives everything away to please the USA, NATO and the EU. Plus the fact he wasnt able to bring one of the four cabinets through their 4 year term.
  2. Please note that the mods dont want to play police here and we won't until boundaries are crossed. We are a bit more tolerant in this thread. Yeah made a remark after a few from your side. Not the nicest, but I think you know you put yourself in that position a bit.

    If we all could just control ourself a bit then this thread will be much more fun
  3. Originally posted by Risto:Please note that the mods dont want to play police here and we won't until boundaries are crossed. We are a bit more tolerant in this thread. Yeah made a remark after a few from your side. Not nice, but I think you know you put yourself in that position a bit.

    If we all could just control ourself a bit then this thread will be much more fun


    I've been pretty civil since my return.
  4. Originally posted by Risto:

    Other parties give troubling kids (mostly Moroccan and Netherlands Antillian) money to party to keep them from the street A kick under the ass and forced labour I say. I'm not paying taxes for some spoiled brats to party while the good people need to pay 10 euro's to get in a club.




    My god! We have the same point of on bratty rich kids.
  5. I go counting votes in a few minutes over here. D66 gets my vote for these elections. At the national elections chances are big I'll go for VVD (right-wing liberals)..
  6. Originally posted by Risto:

    Other parties give troubling kids (mostly Moroccan and Netherlands Antillian) money to party to keep them from the street A kick under the ass and forced labour I say. I'm not paying taxes for some spoiled brats to party while the good people need to pay 10 euro's to get in a club.



    Wow, I wouldn't have expected such racist shit from you.
    You never know, I guess.


  7. Guess he doesen't just hate me. Seems like he hates anyone who disagrees with him.


  8. I am not a racist. But these are facts. Simple facts. I am for same punishment / treatment for each race. I am only half Dutch my self! Even the Moroccan society acknowledge there are problems.

    Solutions are point of debate. Not cause.
  9. Yeah do you agree that kids with a record get thousands of euro's to party at new years eve to keep them from fighting? Its not made up, this actually happened.
  10. Originally posted by Risto:[..]

    I am not a racist. But these are facts. Simple facts. I am for same punishment / treatment for each race. I am only half Dutch my self! Even the Moroccan society acknowledge there are problems.

    Solutions are point of debate. Not cause.


    Same in the U.S. Minorieties statisticly are involved in more crimes, but somehow its racist to punish them for it.
  11. Originally posted by Risto:[..]

    I am not a racist. But these are facts. Simple facts. I am for same punishment for each race. I am not even completely Dutch my self! Even the moroccan society acknowledge there are problems.

    Solutions are point of debate. Not cause.


    I don't say you're a racist. It's just that comment where you emphasize on the background of the "bad" young people that I find racist. But then again I know shit about the dutch society.
    So, I take back that comment. Sorry if it came out rude.

    We have the same discussion in Germany about "criminals" with turkish or russian background, though where it's always easier to blame a groupe instead of acknowledging that there's something going wrong in our society.

    Originally posted by Risto:Yeah do you agree that kids with a record get thousands of euro's to party at new years eve to keep them from fighting? Its not made up, this actually happened.


    Hard to say. I'd need to know the background for that.

  12. Originally posted by Risto:Yeah do you agree that kids with a record get thousands of euro's to party at new years eve to keep them from fighting? Its not made up, this actually happened.


    We have the same kind of stuff in the states. My old high school, will actully pay kids with poor attendance records to attend.
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