1. And seems Elop will be replacing Ballmer as CEO....this whole thing is starting to sound like a major and long planned conspiracy!
  2. http://conversations.nokia.com/2013/09/03/the-next-chapter-an-open-letter-from-steve-ballmer-and-stephen-elop/

    "twrist • 35 minutes ago −
    I've only ever owned Nokia phones and I fully intended to keep it that way forever. Now my hand has been forced.

    It does concern me a little that North Americans can't even pronounce Nokia correctly, let alone understand their ethos and what they represent for European technology users.
    "

    Same here. Selling Nokia out to Microsoft marks the end of my 11 years relationship with Nokia. Although I will always say they've been the best phones around (both soft and hardware wise) but they've taken the wrong path, so... It was good while it lasted. Ciao!
  3. Originally posted by LikeASong:http://conversations.nokia.com/2013/09/03/the-next-chapter-an-open-letter-from-steve-ballmer-and-stephen-elop/

    "twrist • 35 minutes ago −
    I've only ever owned Nokia phones and I fully intended to keep it that way forever. Now my hand has been forced.

    It does concern me a little that North Americans can't even pronounce Nokia correctly, let alone understand their ethos and what they represent for European technology users.
    "

    Same here. Selling Nokia out to Microsoft marks the end of my 11 years relationship with Nokia. Although I will always say they've been the best phones around (both soft and hardware wise) but they've taken the wrong path, so... It was good while it lasted. Ciao!

    Maybe everything will be ok in the end. At least I hope so.

    BTW interesting fact. Just moments after the deal was made, price of Microsoft shares fell for 5% while Nokia's rose for 35%.
  4. Because Nokia is a dead brand. They are too far behind. I dont think they will ever recover.
  5. Windows Phone is only going to follow. I can't see Microsoft alone making it work.

  6. Nokia brand isn't dead, far from it. They still own the biggest number of patents in smartphone industry. Not to mention that they specialized in GPS technology over the past few years.

    Despite all the problems they still had the best, most sturdy hardware that didn't feel cheap even in the most cheap Lumia devices.

    They hold 2nd place in South America which is a huge market and they are rapidly growing in Asia. If they put their heads together and don't mess it up, I believe that they can succeed.
  7. Despite all the problems they still had the best, most sturdy hardware that didn't feel cheap even in the most cheap Lumia devices.


    They always have. But sturdy, reliable hardware ain't anything if it isn't backed up by a good, fluent software. And they have lacked that since they stuck with Symbian while the rest of the world moved forward to Android and OS. A shame.
  8. There was no problem with Symbian itself. In many ways it still does a lot better than most mobile operating systems today. Nokia just needed to develop it a lot quicker. If the 5800 or N97 launched with Belle and capacitive screens they would have just about been alrie I think. Would have bought them 2 years to merge with Meego. A shame either way. A big shame.
  9. Originally posted by Yogi:[..]

    Nokia brand isn't dead, far from it. They still own the biggest number of patents in smartphone industry. Not to mention that they specialized in GPS technology over the past few years.

    Despite all the problems they still had the best, most sturdy hardware that didn't feel cheap even in the most cheap Lumia devices.

    They hold 2nd place in South America which is a huge market and they are rapidly growing in Asia. If they put their heads together and don't mess it up, I believe that they can succeed.


    I know all of that, but I dont see them recovering and fighting on the level of Samsung or Apple.

    My last 3 phones were Nokia.

    N95
    N900
    Lumia 800

    I really love them all, especially the N900 was awesome at the time. But it was born dead, since support was dropped almost immediately. The Lumia phones are beautiful, the OS likewise, but really limited. SIP calls were possible on the N95, but not on the Lumia. Multitasking was fully supported on the N900, the 800 has none.

    Its very easy to develop for WP but there is just too many things you don't have access to.
  10. People today mostly buy Nokia because they want Nokia, not because they want windows Phone. I think the platform has no longevity. It may grow a little but I see no end game for it. There is premise there but Microsoft don't seem keen to work on it with any sense of urgency.
  11. Originally posted by germcevoy:People today mostly buy Nokia because they want Nokia, not because they want windows Phone. I think the platform has no longevity. It may grow a little but I see no end game for it. There is premise there but Microsoft don't seem keen to work on it with any sense of urgency.

    Agree. I also think that most of the people who buy a Nokia today, buy it because they have already owned a Nokia: I mean, I don't think they've gained many new users since some years ago, most of their users are users of old phones when Nokia ruled the mobile world.