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  1. It can be quit easy for U2.com, I think 90% of the U2 fans wants live music. So lets vote/choose every year on the most popular fansites which concert we want as U2 fan subscribers gift.

    Springsteens shows are also not without failure s.

    When the dvd of E&I Berlin is a release exclusively for U2.com members only then I am satisfied with this year's gift. If this concert also will have a commercial release, then it shows that U2.com again have no respect for their subscribers.
  2. The downloads/thumb drives/CD's, etc... has been argued for, petitioned for, brought up to the band for almost 20 years now. It gained a "little" steam for the Elevation tour as it was starting to happen with other bands/artists. I remember petitions, fans asking the band, etc. to consider doing this. They could even give the profits to the One campaign or other cause so it would not appear to be "selling out" at the time. What happened? Nothing.

    Whatever the reasons (and I have heard some, supposedly from the band and management) they are not interested in doing it and/or do not care. I think it is a little a both actually.

    I think they will release some things from their vault down the road. But considering they have just about every single show since 1982 archived we would probably still only get .03 percent of what they have. Fortunately, especially lately, we have top quality recordings available for a lot of shows. It is the old stuff that needs to be released (Pre Popmart). How ridiculous is it that we do not have a full top quality recording FM/mixing desk of The Unforgettable Fire tour (Dortmund is incomplete and not a full show anyway and Nantes is a bit harsh with some issues). They have almost every single show from that tour recorded! (The Cork show was "supposedly" not recorded by the band).
  3. Originally posted by ferrari:It can be quit easy for U2.com, I think 90% of the U2 fans wants live music. So lets vote/choose every year on the most popular fansites which concert we want as U2 fan subscribers gift.

    Springsteens shows are also not without failure s.

    When the dvd of E&I Berlin is a release exclusively for U2.com members only then I am satisfied with this year's gift. If this concert also will have a commercial release, then it shows that U2.com again have no respect for their subscribers.
    I understand your thinking and I would be sad to see the commercial release, having renewed the subscription to win the DVD. However, they demonstrated to be considerate only to the subscribers, not caring about the other fans in the world. In the end, we will have sad fans anyway.
  4. I am sure they will release a Blu-ray + collectors box commercially... it makes no sense to have no HD version...
  5. Originally posted by spfletty:I'm guessing someone here or at U2 Songs or U2 News has contacts....what if we all got a petition together?

    I'd happily pay for show audio. Especially shows I've been to.


    We totally should
  6. I guess the question is would a fan site be willing to start the petition and promote it on there pages/social media platforms etc and would other fan sites and fan pages also be happy to promote it. An individual doing it probably won’t be enough for it to gain enough momentum. It probably won’t achieve anything but it maybe is worth trying at least we might get an official answer on the matter.
  7. I was driving in last night thinking about this. And one thing that Bono always say is about the importance that U2 to be "Relevant". They maybe having arrived a conclusion that their do not more relevant in the mainstream nowadays, only to old fans. Only a thinked ...
  8. What has being relevant or not to do with a discussion about the U2.com subscription gift?
  9. I think he’s convinced that releasing the Berlin dvd to the fan club only and not commercially (if this is the case) means the band aren’t opening the doors to new fans. The dvd releases have never been aimed at new fans though, that’s what albums are for which are mainly listened to through streaming services now anyway, I would think it’s 95% ‘old’ fans that buy the albums and probably an even higher percentage that buy the dvd’s. If people wanted to see live stuff to get into the band they would chose YouTube where they would watch the same stuff for free that long term fans chose to pay for.
  10. If their releases don't have market strength, it becomes just a "gift" for fans. They may not want to see their products selling less than the most current artists. This is the connection.
  11. Originally posted by deanallison:[..]
    I think he’s convinced that releasing the Berlin dvd to the fan club only and not commercially (if this is the case) means the band aren’t opening the doors to new fans. The dvd releases have never been aimed at new fans though, that’s what albums are for which are mainly listened to through streaming services now anyway, I would think it’s 95% ‘old’ fans that buy the albums and probably an even higher percentage that buy the dvd’s. If people wanted to see live stuff to get into the band they would chose YouTube where they would watch the same stuff for free that long term fans chose to pay for.
    Many "new fans" met the band with the DVDs of the elevation tour, with the "Live at Rose Bowl" and filled the morumbi stadium for four nights in 2017. In addition, in 2006 there was a huge wave of new fans with the broadcast of TV Globo live in Brazil. New fans who founded fan clubs, and who were in all shows in Brazil in 2011 and 2017. I have been a fan of the band since 1990, when I met them through a VHS, and I was very happy to see young people meeting and getting excited about them U2 on TV (It was the biggest TV audience of the year in the country, lost only to world cup).

    I imagine the effect of a live broadcast of an entire TJT show for today's generation. If this current generation can into a store and saw a DVD available to buy, or if I could buy a new DVD from my favorite band and give a gift to my nieces, friends ... this is the point.

    I can only hope they launch this (If they want).
  12. Originally posted by deanallison:[..]
    I think he’s convinced that releasing the Berlin dvd to the fan club only and not commercially (if this is the case) means the band aren’t opening the doors to new fans. The dvd releases have never been aimed at new fans though, that’s what albums are for which are mainly listened to through streaming services now anyway, I would think it’s 95% ‘old’ fans that buy the albums and probably an even higher percentage that buy the dvd’s. If people wanted to see live stuff to get into the band they would chose YouTube where they would watch the same stuff for free that long term fans chose to pay for.
    Good point. I’ve never bought a music DVD from a band where I didn’t already own a few studio albums.
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