1. Originally posted by flowerchild:as I said, criticism is ok by all means, but it's just too much from time to time, in my opinion. saying that their really good times are over is a bit too much of a judgement, you simply can't state that as fact. you don't know what's about to come, you don't know how u2 really thinks about making a new album. a bit of faith in them every now and then wouldn't hurt and it's not like they've been crap the last 8 years, why does every album have to be groundbreaking? that's a bit too much to ask of them, no one's at the top of their game 24/7 all of their lives


    Good points there.

    However, I also think it's understood that people are stating opinion and not stating fact. There's no need for everyone to end a sentence with "IMO". It should be taken verbatim that whatever comes out is someone sharing their "views". If I say JT is better than AB - it's my preference and I shouldn't have to preface it by saing "IMO".
  2. Originally posted by yeah:[..]

    Being a fan of the band for me doesn't mean that I have to blindly enjoy everything that has the label U2. I've followed this band for about 20 years now, have seen them live multiple times, cheered for them and spent a fortune on official releases, concert tickets, travelling costs, taping equipment and servers that hosted the fan forums I managed over the years.
    So, if I now say, I don't like song x or album y or the non musical Bono, does that make me less of a fan???


    I completely agree about that and should have included that. I don't blindly enjoy everything they do either, but overall I think they're damn near perfect. I'm not trying to judge anyones "fanness" because it's not my place and its a personal and different thing for each of us. I guess I had just gotten kinda frustrated with what I saw as a lot of negativity
  3. Originally posted by aussiemofo:[..]

    Don't agree with you but support your right to say it! I think it's understood that all of us here are die-hard fans and that we're allowed to be critical from time to time. We may overplay our bitching and moaning but it's an indicator of how obsessive we are. We want U2 to be the best that they can be. For the record, late 80's, early 90's was the high spot for me.


    i know, i do criticize them as a fan. U2 has to earn our trust more than the trust of new fans, I remember grilling Atomic Bomb when it came out, to make sure it was as good as they said. Overall I agree. So I do criticize them and believe they have a lot to prove and live up to, but i guess i'm giving them the benefit of the doubt. like I said, the negativity just seemed to be a little rampant sometimes, could just be me though. I'm not calling anyone less of a fan!! *peace sign*
  4. Originally posted by aussiemofo:[..]

    Good points there.

    However, I also think it's understood that people are stating opinion and not stating fact. There's no need for everyone to end a sentence with "IMO". It should be taken verbatim that whatever comes out is someone sharing their "views". If I say JT is better than AB - it's my preference and I shouldn't have to preface it by saing "IMO".


    Amen. If I say that U2 didn't release anything great in the last 10 years, that's my opinion, no fact. I'm not trying to persuade someone that I'm right and they're wrong. Would be boring if everyone enjoyed the same songs, shared the same lyrics interpretation, etc...
  5. Originally posted by yeah:[..]

    Amen. If I say that U2 didn't release anything great in the last 10 years, that's my opinion, no fact. I'm not trying to persuade someone that I'm right and they're wrong. Would be boring if everyone enjoyed the same songs, shared the same lyrics interpretation, etc...


    true
  6. According to the swedish site www.u2.se, Dallas Schoo has said that Edge and Bono will fly to London this Wednesday to record more material for the new album.

    Hmm.. more delays then? Or b-sides maybe?
  7. Originally posted by zooTV4all:According to the swedish site www.u2.se, Dallas Schoo has said that Edge and Bono will fly to London this Wednesday to record more material for the new album.

    Hmm.. more delays then? Or b-sides maybe?


    hopefully does not mean more delay, but then again it's strange they are still recording stuff so close to the end of the year
  8. The 'U2 Tower' sky scraper has been scrapped apparently. . .
  9. Quote from that U2.se site by Dallas Schoo:

    They have made a great, not just good, but GREAT record."



    A suggestion made by Matt McGee on atu2.com in OTR also was this:

    In my previous OTR column from early October, I mentioned in passing a rumor we'd heard about U2 working on a double album, and suggested it may explain the Daniel Lanois comment about mixing "half the U2 record." I was lazy in my word choice. The rumor we heard wasn't of a double album, it was that U2 would be releasing two albums. I apologize for not being more clear.

    Furthering that idea, we recently heard a new rumor with more details on what may be to come: One album will be the traditional CD release, while a second album will be released only online (i.e., via iTunes and other stores). I have no idea if it's true or not, but it does fit in fairly nicely with what Paul McGuinness said earlier this year about the new album release: "We will obviously work with whatever technology is available to make the release of the new record as interesting as possible."



    AmazonMP3 (hopefully), Napster or iTunes distribution for another album - possibly like Unreleased and Rare? That would make me think the cover, he's been speaking about, is going to be a digital one of some kind. So if that is the case, then it's nothing new or exciting.

    Greenday's Bullet In A Bible, a few years back, had a holographic cover. Michael Jackson's Invincible, about eight years ago, came in five different colours and Prince's Black album, a good few years ago, was coloured black. No label, song titles or whatever on it. Maybe one of those ideas will be the amazing cover we've been hearing so much about. Or you have to put in a password to unlock the album, and you get a free making-of video with it.

    But it has to be a technological idea.

    I hope that the second album isn't released purely digitally. But with Brian Eno also on board, who knows what this album could turn out like.
  10. Using the (RED) platform would make sense then.
    If they decide to do a digital only release, they better use a lossless format...
  11. Originally posted by yeah:Using the (RED) platform would make sense then.
    If they decide to do a digital only release, they better use a lossless format...


    That's why I said AmazonMP3. It's not exactly lossless (256Kbps MP3), but better than the 128Kbps iTunes gives you. Lossless (FLAC, rather than WAV or ALAC) would be the way to go, and U2 would be stupid to not go lossless, but so many people are buying digital now, they don't care for files that size, as long as they hear the 80% audio loss. It's great to have an album you can download in 10 minutes, but you get terrible sound as a result.

    I wonder if Live Nation will distribute the CD through the official website....working with new technology partners. Apparently U2 are going DRM (digital-rights-management) free, what that means is the files have no copy protection but you get them at a higher bit-rate - a first for Universal and Island.

    Still not the point, I want to spend the money to get me a top-sounding CD when I see it on the shelves. None of U2's albums so far have bad sound quality, because they're mastered. Many artists releasing albums nowadays have terrible sound quality. The songs aren't bad, but the sound on it is. Rather than doing it fully digitally, put both albums out, but give the digital release 2-3 extra songs in decent sound quality.
  12. It would indeed be great if they released the on line album in a lossless format, but I think that it's just not commercially appealing enough. A lot of people don't know what a lossless format is and why the quality is better than mp3's. Or they don't care. They just want to play the songs on their iPod or mp3 player, and they don't want such large files for that.