1. no to Barcelona ? so you won´t win the Champions League ??

    The other four i recomend you : The United ....

    I will like to play in Barcelona or Madrid
  2. Originally posted by patou2[..]

    no to Barcelona ? so you won´t win the Champions League ??

    The other four i recomend you : The United ....

    I will like to play in Barcelona or Madrid


    The other four I'd happily play for. And win the Champions League with
  3. hehe you have to move Messi to Manchester if you want that
  4. *cough cough*
    we won CL without Messi
  5. past times ....

    Now i think is very hard to beat Brca or Madrid in 180 minutes ....
  6. very hard but not impossible
    the ball is round (like we say here) you know
    true is Mou is not here anymore
  7. Originally posted by clover68very hard but not impossible
    the ball is round (like we say here) you know
    true is Mou is not here anymore


    Did you see the match between Barca vs Santos ?

    Barca is near to be unbeatable .... maybe in 90 minutes , but not in 180 ....
    Madrid with Mou is awesome . If Barca no exist Madrid would be the best team in the world , but Xavi, Iniesta, Messi exists....


  8. It wasn't long ago that we did beat them over 180 minutes, 2008. That's before Barcelona became what they did. Media hyping them up, constantly putting other teams down, arselicking Messi even when he does nothing in a game.

    Similar to how the English media builds the national team up and eventually puts too much pressue on them, not that that bothers me.

    Messi wouldn't change United, he can barely make an impact with his national team. I think really, it's Xavi and Iniesta who do all the hard work. I think Barcelona could easily sell Messi to another club and continue as they do. Defensively, they leave a lot to be desired. Valdes isn't anywhere amongst the top goalkeepers of the game, the only player who I'd consider a top defender is Puyol, but he needs a haircut. But since they play so high up and constantly pass it around 35 yards from goal, the opposition can't expose their defence. Arsenal did a few years ago (maybe last year?) and probably deserved to go through in that tie.
  9. saw just the highlights but i think south american football is not comparable with european one .. great players there who make great teams here though

    then we'll beat them in the final in 90mins .. dreaming costs nothing hehehe
  10. Originally posted by iTim:[..]

    It wasn't long ago that we did beat them over 180 minutes, 2008. That's before Barcelona became what they did. Media hyping them up, constantly putting other teams down, arselicking Messi even when he does nothing in a game.

    Similar to how the English media builds the national team up and eventually puts too much pressue on them, not that that bothers me.

    Messi wouldn't change United, he can barely make an impact with his national team. I think really, it's Xavi and Iniesta who do all the hard work. I think Barcelona could easily sell Messi to another club and continue as they do. Defensively, they leave a lot to be desired. Valdes isn't anywhere amongst the top goalkeepers of the game, the only player who I'd consider a top defender is Puyol, but he needs a haircut. But since they play so high up and constantly pass it around 35 yards from goal, the opposition can't expose their defence. Arsenal did a few years ago (maybe last year?) and probably deserved to go through in that tie.


    good point about Messi .. he's great for sure but i wish to see him in other situations to compare him to other from the past such as Maradona, Van Basten, Platini, Matthaus etc
  11. Originally posted by clover68:[..]

    good point about Messi .. he's great for sure but i wish to see him in other situations to compare him to other from the past such as Maradona, Van Basten, Platini, Matthaus etc


    He's very much a player who applies the decoration but sometimes you need more than that. Those players you listed + Zidane/Ronaldo were all great players, great leaders and a great inspiration for both club and country. Messi isn't. Neither is Cristiano Ronaldo.

    Xavi and Iniesta are both the key men in the Barcelona squad.
  12. agree for Zidane .. not sure about Ronaldo .. sincerely he's one the amazing players i saw but i remember 2 wonderful seasons by him, Barca and the first in Inter) .. he was truly unlucky after apart from the rest.

    i think it's enough to take Xavi off and all the Barca castle starts to collapse