1. Kind of agree here.

    I wish I was going tonight. Seen lot's of Bilbao fans around Manchester, so I expect them to be taking up plenty of seats in the home section.

    Should be a good game, I haven't really seen much of Bilbao recently. Off the top of my head, I can't name any of their players or say where they are in the league...
  2. Man City are losing 1-0 with 10 minutes to go

    Schalke 04 also losing 1-0 Kirsten won't be happy...
  3. Absolute mess in defence, wasteful in possession and no where near clinical enough up front. These young United players have a lot to learn.

    Good game from De Gea though, he's actually stepped up this season. Credit to him.
  4. Did you see that Athletic de Bilbao??????? I'm proud of them right now. A lot of my norhtern family is from Bilbao and all of them are strong Athletic fans, so I could say I'm a partial fan as well. That was impressive
  5. I only had it on in the background as I was doing some work but United looked like they got lucky to come out only 2-3.

    No doubt Fergie is still throwing tea cups in the changing room and I think we'll se a big difference in performance in the return leg.
  6. United had plenty of chances and could've scored 3-4 goals. But I don't think any of Bilbao's goals were defended well. The first was a mistake by Jones for allowing Llorente to run past into the hole. The second was offside, but De Gea could've still done better. The third was simply horrific defending by Rafael.

    They need to step it up big time next week.
  7. Atletico de Madrid has defeated Besiktas 3:1. Third goal by Adrian was amazing And the Besiktas goal was scored by Simao, who didn't celebrate it. Nice gesture :-)
  8. Sergio, do you support/follow a team? I seem to recall you not liking Real and you also not being keen on "fans".
  9. Yep. I don't "heartfully support" any team, because they do nothing for me. I support -if you want to call it like that- the teams I enjoy seeing playing (that includes Barça and excludes Milan AC, for example) and the teams whose philosophy and behaviour I like (that includes Atletico de Madrid and excludes Real Madrid, e.g.).

    And yeah, I dislike when people say "We have won 4:2" talking about the team they support... I mean, "WE"? Really? Did you play? Or do you manage the team? No, you just watched the match from your TV, how can you saw "we have done this" or "we don't like that"?? That's what I dislike. There's nothing wrong with liking and supporting a team, but please don't act as if you were part of it! They're just 11 players kicking a ball. They're not even like your favorite band, who can write and play songs that you emotionally attach to some events or feelings... They're just 11 guys kicking a white ball.
  10. I promised myself to answer your criticisms Sergio, completely slipped my mind. On my phone now so can't respond really. I agree in part, I'm sure Ronnie will agree, 'Ultras' are bad for football. We, or Man Utd, had bad experience with Roma Ultras in 2007. Fanatic hooliganism has died down somewhat in the UK but there ate still die hard fans who want a piece of the opposition.

    Spending £40 a game to sing, cheer and lament with 70,000 other people on a weekly basis is something that does bring you close to the club. It's natural to refer to the club as "we" because they are the only club that you have an interest in and are willing to invest in. Buying shirts with your footballing hero, attending games, friendly rivalries amongst friends, following your club around the country and even Europe is worthy of emotional attachment. A game of football has many emotions when the club you support is involved. Watching the entertainers provide breathtaking moments that will live long in the memory is what it's all about. Watching old footage on YouTube or TV has the power to brig back feelings and give goosebumps.
  11. It depends on what you call Ultra's. If you mean ''fans'' who go to a match or just a stadium to fight than I completely agree.

    But if you mean people who go to every home and away match I dont agree.
  12. Originally posted by bartajax:It depends on what you call Ultra's. If you mean ''fans'' who go to a match or just a stadium to fight than I completely agree.

    But if you mean people who go to every home and away match I dont agree.

    No, I mean fans who specifically go to games to intimidate the opposition and their fans both inside and outside of the ground. Granted, they are a different breed to us fans, but they exist.

    "Ultras are a type of sports fans renowned for their fanatical and elaborate displays of "support". They are predominantly European and followers of football teams. The behavioral tendency of ultras groups includes the use of flares (primarily in tifo choreography), chanting/singing in large groups and the displaying of banners at football stadiums, all of which are designed to create an atmosphere which they believe encourages their own team and intimidates opposing players and supporters."