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Originally posted by bartajax:[..]
But, although I really love Raul, isnt it a bit excessive to not use a number anymore for a player who ''only'' played 2 season at a club?

I think it's not about how long he has played for S04, but the way he did it, the way he behaved on and off the field. We had others playing over a decade for the club but who would never ever get this "honor". Several things play part in such a decision, not just the years they were part of the team.

that being said, I've only quoted what they said at the press conference, it's not my personal opinion

iTim

13 years

Manchester United remain the world's most valuable football club, according to Forbes magazine. The study estimates the Premier League champions are worth £1.4bn, which puts them top of the list for the eighth year in a row. Real Madrid are ranked second, valued at £1.17bn, while Barcelona are third with an estimated value of £1.07bn.

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bartajax

13 years

Originally posted by MacStripey:[..]

I think it's not about how long he has played for S04, but the way he did it, the way he behaved on and off the field. We had others playing over a decade for the club but who would never ever get this "honor". Several things play part in such a decision, not just the years they were part of the team.

that being said, I've only quoted what they said at the press conference, it's not my personal opinion

I know, but since I dont really follow it that much I really didnt know he was so popular. I still have a Real Madrid shirt here with number 7 Raul here

just to prove that is one of my favorite players

By the way, Ronnie since your a Inter fan, will they let Chivu go after this season? And is he still good enough ?

clover68

13 years

all the honors to Raul but my opinion is that something like that should be done only for players who really make the History of a club .. Maradona, Crujiff and so on
if it's that the case of Raul .. well Shalke history is quite poor

.. or a never-happened win at San Siro is that big? kidding Kirsten

clover68

13 years

Originally posted by bartajax:[..]

By the way, Ronnie since your a Inter fan, will they let Chivu go after this season? And is he still good enough ?

if he is still good enough we wouldn't let him leave .. hehe
seriously it's hard this season to say who's still good and who's not
personally i would let him go like some other "old" ones. we need to rebuild and the reconstuction should be done around other senators.
anyway in the last 2 years his performances have decreased a lot

bartajax

13 years

Originally posted by clover68:[..]

if he is still good enough we wouldn't let him leave .. hehe
seriously it's hard this season to say who's still good and who's not
personally i would let him go like some other "old" ones. we need to rebuild and the reconstuction should be done around other senators.
anyway in the last 2 years his performances have decreased a lot

He was great at his first period here but I doubt he still is good enough. We need a replacer for Vertonghen.

clover68

13 years

we can give you Lucio too if you want

.. unluckily it seems he's renewing the contract though
latest rumors of today say that could be offered to Chivu a one year contract with much less money

iTim

13 years