1. The end of Glasgow Rangers......

    Strange that such a big club could go bankrupt

  2. Yep. It's a shame for Scottish football actually. That makes an obvious winner for the league next year: Celtic. Unless they mess up big time.

    What's funny is that I used to be a Rangers fan when I was about 6 years old. I stopped supporting them as I lost interest in Scottish football.

    A lot of Scottish clubs are in massive debts. Hearts, for example, will be next.

  3. Really ???

    It will change theri name or just dissapear ?
  4. There will be a new club with a new name but they will still be Rangers F.C. with all the supporters and the stadium. All the players and staff can choose to move to this new team, but they can leave with no argument if they want to. This new team will have all debts cleared and will be a fresh start. There are disadvantages, however. They will lose their history of all the cups they won, they aren't allowed into Europe for 3 years and they might not be able to enter the top league of Scottish football; they might have to go into the lowest league of competitive Scottish football, if you want to call it that - being called Division Two.

    Although, there has to be a thorough investigation to whether there was fraud involved, if Craig Whyte (the corrupt guy who took over shortly) flooded the club anymore, and to look at the club's financial history over the past 15 or so years.

    It really started when they were under Dick Advocaat when he was paying ridiculous sums of money for players that weren't even that great. For example, there was the signing of Tore Andre Flo for £12 million. He may have had a good record of goals, but that was way too much for him. Advocaat went mental with signings so that is pretty much where it started. I think the loss of the chairman, David Murray, added gasoline to the fire. After that, they were going downhill fast.
  5. Yeah Advocaat likes to spend money and play with older players instead of letting younger players play.

    Its just sad that a big club can dissapear while other big teams can keep spending money
  6. Originally posted by KieranU2:There will be a new club with a new name but they will still be Rangers F.C. with all the supporters and the stadium. All the players and staff can choose to move to this new team, but they can leave with no argument if they want to. This new team will have all debts cleared and will be a fresh start. There are disadvantages, however. They will lose their history of all the cups they won, they aren't allowed into Europe for 3 years and they might not be able to enter the top league of Scottish football; they might have to go into the lowest league of competitive Scottish football, if you want to call it that - being called Division Two.

    Although, there has to be a thorough investigation to whether there was fraud involved, if Craig Whyte (the corrupt guy who took over shortly) flooded the club anymore, and to look at the club's financial history over the past 15 or so years.

    It really started when they were under Dick Advocaat when he was paying ridiculous sums of money for players that weren't even that great. For example, there was the signing of Tore Andre Flo for £12 million. He may have had a good record of goals, but that was way too much for him. Advocaat went mental with signings so that is pretty much where it started. I think the loss of the chairman, David Murray, added gasoline to the fire. After that, they were going downhill fast.

    Really sad ... great club and history ....

    please tell me that Craig Whyte is going to jail !!
  7. sorry - a bit late to the discussion but have to say, the liquidation of 'them' is one of the greatest things that has happened in my lifetime. May they burn in Hell
  8. Really? Now there isnt any excitement in the Scottisch league anymore, Celtic will win everything there. That is going to be fun for a year but after than season you will miss them I think.

    Its the same if Feyenoord will dissapear (although I dont hate them) you need exciting games in a lower league like the Dutch and Scottish one.
  9. Originally posted by bartajax:Really? Now there isnt any excitement in the Scottisch league anymore, Celtic will win everything there. That is going to be fun for a year but after than season you will miss them I think.

    Its the same if Feyenoord will dissapear (although I dont hate them) you need exciting games in a lower league like the Dutch and Scottish one.

    They are liquidated in their current form but there will still be a 'Rangers' of sorts. At worst, they will be back in the Premier League in 3 seasons. At best - they will be voted straight back in and be in the same league next season. Not a bad deal for them given what they have done.

    And to answer any potential questions - yes I am a Celtic supporter, I have a season ticket and I am revelling in their plight.
  10. Juan Sebastián Verón has called it a day, playing his final game for Estudiantes whilst Gabriel Milito plays his final game for Independiente. Two players I'm sure Pato will know all too well. Verón obviously played for some of the supported clubs here, Man Utd and Inter as well as other high profile clubs like Lazio and Chelsea. Milito on the other hand spent most of his career in Spain with spells at both Zaragoza and Barcelona. The shame with Milito is that he is only 31, his older brother Diego is still going strong in Serie A.

    Obviously I have more of an interest in Verón, didn't have a great spell at United but no-one can deny that he was a talented player and at times, although few and far between, he showed exactly what he was capable of.
  11. Originally posted by iTim:Juan Sebastián Verón has called it a day, playing his final game for Estudiantes whilst Gabriel Milito plays his final game for Independiente. Two players I'm sure Pato will know all too well. Verón obviously played for some of the supported clubs here, Man Utd and Inter as well as other high profile clubs like Lazio and Chelsea. Milito on the other hand spent most of his career in Spain with spells at both Zaragoza and Barcelona. The shame with Milito is that he is only 31, his older brother Diego is still going strong in Serie A.

    Obviously I have more of an interest in Verón, didn't have a great spell at United but no-one can deny that he was a talented player and at times, although few and far between, he showed exactly what he was capable of.

    Tim :

    Both still can play here in Argentina but lot of injuries stop their carreers now. Verón made a great effort by his club resigned and invested money for your club to improve and he did win titles and playing a World Cup final against Barcelona clubs (lost narrowly) , here is very respected and in Estudiantes is a full idol ....
    And Milito has a really sad history .... he is 31 , a year ago was in Barcelona winning titles , then went back to his first club Independiente - where he is loved- .But his knee and others injuries bothered him much and he say stop . In Argentina ´s level he could play 5 years more ...



  12. right now is the final for the German championship of the u19 / A Juniors going on. Schalke 04 vs Bayern Munich (click for livestream)
    Since the Bundesliga team of S04 hasn't won the German championship since 1958 (:| ), all we royalblues are keeping our fingers crossed for the professionals of tomorrow. Olé