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  1. Originally posted by BelgianBono:[..]


    Sure, because of €€€.
    It's not Champions League anymore if they make it impossible for the champions of smaller countries to participate.
    Furthemore the gap between superclubs and subtop becomes bigger and bigger.
    Every year the same battle between Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Atlético...
    Change the name to Wealthy League already.
    well said, Mr.
  2. Originally posted by BelgianBono:[..]


    Sure, because of €€€.
    It's not Champions League anymore if they make it impossible for the champions of smaller countries to participate.
    Furthemore the gap between superclubs and subtop becomes bigger and bigger.
    Every year the same battle between Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Atlético...
    Change the name to Wealthy League already.
    Couldn't agree more. In the 90's, a team from Brazil or Argentina could still compete with the winner of the Champions League. Now the differences are abysmal. The dullness of the Spanish League (every year the same 3 teams with a difference of 30-40 points from the rest) has passed now to the Champions League.
  3. Originally posted by BelgianBono:[..]


    Sure, because of €€€.
    It's not Champions League anymore if they make it impossible for the champions of smaller countries to participate.
    Furthemore the gap between superclubs and subtop becomes bigger and bigger.
    Every year the same battle between Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Atlético...
    Change the name to Wealthy League already.
    +1

    and what Cesar sai about South american teams too ...the strongs teams are going stronger every year a little more ...i think is bad for the other teams but is goo for the show
  4. Well I doubt it's good for the show in the long run...
    People always like underdogs in sports, right? Like Leicester, for example.
    If they keep cutting of the underdogs, not even being able to compete, well, I'll be bored quite easily with the same games over and over again.
  5. Originally posted by BelgianBono:Well I doubt it's good for the show in the long run...
    People always like underdogs in sports, right? Like Leicester, for example.
    If they keep cutting of the underdogs, not even being able to compete, well, I'll be bored quite easily with the same games over and over again.
    It s true , but if you review the history all the tittles went to few teams ...i don t know what is better ...i love to watch the strong teams to be honest
  6. Originally posted by patou2:[..]
    It s true , but if you review the history all the tittles went to few teams ...i don t know what is better ...i love to watch the strong teams to be honest
    Yes, but this will make bigger difference between strong teams and the others. There should be strategy to make more teams win, so make possible more teams to get in top teams... but it's probably not strategy of sponsors... and football is mainly about money, right? Sport and fans are just the unimportant parts...
  7. from 2018 the Champions League will change and soon in europe we will have the Super League.
    It's nice that Leicester has won the Premier League but everybody know it's a wonder. Biggest team in europe don't have only much money but also a great tradition, great society, expert management, obviously they are the best. I like to watch super matches , this year and since five years my favourite team Juventus/Turin has a tremendous line up. Boys just want to play fun :-) like u2 rock and roll :-)
  8. Originally posted by buzzandmusic:from 2018 the Champions League will change and soon in europe we will have the Super League.
    It's nice that Leicester has won the Premier League but everybody know it's a wonder. Biggest team in europe don't have only much money but also a great tradition, great society, expert management, obviously they are the best. I like to watch super matches , this year and since five years my favourite team Juventus/Turin has a tremendous line up. Boys just want to play fun :-) like u2 rock and roll :-)
    Sure. Tell me how Manchester CIty and Chelsea became big succesful clubs by tradition.
  9. Manchester city and Chelsea are not in the history of football and not in my ideas of top club. Chelsea will not play CL and MC will play only after a match of qualifications.
    PSG too.......they are only teams of arabian or russian rich people.
    Big clubs are: Barcelona and Real in Spain, United and Liverpool in uk, Bayern and Borussia Dortmund in Germany, Juventus and Milan in Italy,the history are these teams. In France there is no league too many differences. In other countries like Holland, Belgium Greece, Sweden, Portugal and so on no chances. Only max 2 teams are able to play Europe League, not champions league. But the same history today is in all sports.........just think about it
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  10. Then why do Man City, Chelsea, PSG, Zenit, Shaktar Donetsk etc. become more and more succesfull in Europe while Liverpool and Milan are sliding off...?
    I've got the utmost respect for those last two teams, but the reality is they've lost their place to the clubs above.

    Furthermore teams like Chelsea, City, United and Arsenal should be completely ashamed how they ended up after a team like Leicester instead of being cocky and arranging that in the future they've got the CL tickets and not a team that did excellent with a way smaller budget.
    They should be able to overrun the champions of Belgium, Netherlands, Scotland etc instead of being afraid of losing and only willing to play Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern, Dortmund...
  11. You have to earn your place at the top table I'm afraid. Manchester United are nowhere near the level of Real Madrid and Barcelona. They were embarrassing in the Champions League last year and dismal domestically. Having a good European history doesn't entitle them to European Football each year. If the current crop of players aren't good enough, then that's tough. Leicester won the Premier League against all the odds and fully deserve a shot at taking on the rest of Europe. Good luck to them.
  12. You're right, Tim, but situations like ManU last year had lead to these measures.
    Because ManU missed the CL, they want more tickets for the "big" countries.
    Also, there's aparantly a rule where the clubs with more "tradition" get the ticket over a newcomer. For example, if Leicester becomes 4th and ManU 5th it'll be possible the UEFA gives the ticket to ManU anyway. How pathetic and sad is that...
    Anyway, nothing you can do about it.
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