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  1. Originally posted by NeonTiger64:If Bono told everyone to avoid paying as much taxes as possible then I'd maybe agree. I do however think that taxes, especially on people for who paying isn't going to put them on the street or otherwise lower their standard of living in any meaningful way, do have a purpose no matter how much people say "but the government is wasteful and can't be trusted!"

    Any further talk will likely be deemed off-topic and I don't care to discuss excuses for billionaires so I'll leave it at that.
    It’s a fair opinion I just think as a matter of principle I wouldn’t be handing over more money than is legally necessary. I’m the kind of person that if I was a billionaire and saved £5 million in taxes i’d give £10 million to a charity (a better cause), I think Bono sees it that way also. I accept I don’t have any proof Bono does think that way whilst we do have proof he legally avoids taxes.
  2. Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:There's something to be said for going to see local punk shows or whatever, because it's all right there, warts and all. No IEM's keeping time, no sequencers or backing tracks, etc. U2 was once a band like that.

    But there's also a time and place for that.
    When listening to early shows is easy to love them but is also easy to notice that there's no way that could work in an arena setting, much less in a stadium one.

    Playing in a pub or small theatre you can just focus on the music. The people in Arenas and Stadiums demand a whole experience in their shows.
    No matter how great Into The Heart is, Elevation will work ten times better in a stadium.
    And no matter how great spontaneity and improvisation is, a well studied and rehearsed performance that includes all kind of tricks and cheats will work ten times better in a stadium.
    And since there's no way U2 will get back to be a pub/small theatre band, it's absolutely frustrating to long for them to stop using the tricks, the script, or the crowd pleasers.
  4. Originally posted by Bloodraven:[..]

    But there's also a time and place for that.
    When listening to early shows is easy to love them but is also easy to notice that there's no way that could work in an arena setting, much less in a stadium one.

    Playing in a pub or small theatre you can just focus on the music. The people in Arenas and Stadiums demand a whole experience in their shows.
    No matter how great Into The Heart is, Elevation will work ten times better in a stadium.
    And no matter how great spontaneity and improvisation is, a well studied and rehearsed performance that includes all kind of tricks and cheats will work ten times better in a stadium.
    And since there's no way U2 will get back to be a pub/small theatre band, it's absolutely frustrating to long for them to stop using the tricks, the script, or the crowd pleasers.
    True. They're addicted to them at this point--the Roxy club show still had the full rig with all the counts, cues, and metronome.
  5. Originally posted by Bloodraven:[..]

    But there's also a time and place for that.
    When listening to early shows is easy to love them but is also easy to notice that there's no way that could work in an arena setting, much less in a stadium one.

    Playing in a pub or small theatre you can just focus on the music. The people in Arenas and Stadiums demand a whole experience in their shows.
    No matter how great Into The Heart is, Elevation will work ten times better in a stadium.
    And no matter how great spontaneity and improvisation is, a well studied and rehearsed performance that includes all kind of tricks and cheats will work ten times better in a stadium.
    And since there's no way U2 will get back to be a pub/small theatre band, it's absolutely frustrating to long for them to stop using the tricks, the script, or the crowd pleasers.


    That's a fair point, and I agree. But lip syncing (if that happens) or Edge faking guitar solos is bullshit.
  6. I think the band would fall apart in a proper ‘gig. They are a well oiled act but U2 live is much more than a gig. I’d love to see them strip it back one day but they are so invested in the way they work at the moment that I doubt it will ever happen.
  7. Originally posted by germcevoy:I think the band would fall apart in a proper ‘gig. They are a well oiled act but U2 live is much more than a gig. I’d love to see them strip it back one day but they are so invested in the way they work at the moment that I doubt it will ever happen.
    Yeah it's like less is more. Hope to see a light and funky band live next time. It's sometimes too well thought out.
  9. Luckily for Bono everyone hates him already anyway.


  10. Yeah. And they had aspirations of world domination so they had to change in order to acheive that goal. I always remember a quote from Bono in an interview circa HTDATB where he says something along the lines of "No one should start a band unless they want to be the Beatles of the Stones, otherwise stay in your garage." and I so believe in that.
  12. Originally posted by Anam:[..]


    Legitimately wealthy man conducts business affairs legitimately shock! The begrudgers will have a field day.
    Been covered already...bit of a non story but a cheap headline for The Guardian. I've seen quite a few frankly libellous comments on FB about him tbh
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