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  1. Im of the opinion that Australia should give more, when people are still dying from an insect bite, you know something isnt right in the world.
  2. Originally posted by Andrew_C:Im of the opinion that Australia should give more, when people are still dying from an insect bite, you know something isnt right in the world.

    Survival of the fittest? Maybe it's evolution at work.
  3. To comment on the on-topic part of this argument, even if this giving is the reason for all this mess you described about Australia, I still don't see how it makes you angry at Bono. He's not forcing the Australian government to help. He just lobbies and persuades...it's the governments' responsibility to see if they can afford to help others or not.

  4. That is pretty much argumenting against yourself, because that very argument could be used against Australia's native population.

    You should also remember that the rich wealthy world is a main reason for Africa's problems. We've exploited them.
  5. Originally posted by LikeASong:ok writing from outside of.Bonos house b4 i run out of battry;
    Joe, one of the security guys, has seen me freezing ourside and has gotten me a cup of hot coffee and told.me..

    the guys are recording tje album right now - out of dublin (no word where but the guy smiled slightly when I mentioned South of France) - wont be in dublin for another 3 weeks or more.


    Good work Sergio !!
  6. Originally posted by dylbagz:I don't care what the US does, look where helping other countries has gotten them in the past. Done such wonderful things for their country!

    It just makes me wild that we can't even get things right in our own country, yet we're giving all this attention to refugees, asylum seekers and people 10000km away, while aboriginals live like they do in OUR country. Get shit right here before you worry about anywhere else.


    Do people in Australia die of diarrhea? Do they have access to clean drinking water? Do children not attend school because they have to travel miles away to get water? I'm sorry if they do and I suppose if that is the case then I don't have a point... I used to think "Why are we giving to other countries when we have people in our own who need help?" But it's so hard to realize that even the poorest people here would be wealthy in some places in Africa. No one should die of something as common as diarrhea; and the Western world has caused these problems by exploiting the people and their resources. 1% is really not that much to give...especially if it can help the poorest of the poor. And if it helps to stop terrorist organizations from popping up and exploiting these people then that is a win-win.
  7. I dont know how this argument started but I cant agree more with the post above

  8. +1.

    And this.

    I believe that what Bono does for Africa is more important than what he does in U2. He can go on and on and on about it if he wants to.
  10. Why people criticize Bono. He's been in Africa already while he was relatively unknown (Ethiopia 1985) and since then has brought Africa to the attention of people as one of the few people who didn't let go on this subject. Ok, the speeches during a concert sometimes bore me as well, but we all know that's part of being Bono. Bono, the man you love to hate, guess someone has to take that part.

    But during economic downturn I also can understand people say that first look into your own country and then solve others. Holland is a small country and we give loads to charities. But still we have water, food, tv, radio, can go to concerts, have a car, electric etc etc

    One thing I've always wondered though, 28 years after live aid 1, why is this still an issue, where has all the money gone, and it must be loads of money. Dictators, civil wars? It's like throwing money in a well without a bottom and you never see it back. To solve problems this needs to be structured. As we say here, don't give them fish but learn them how to fish. In that regards, Edun was to help local farmers. And there came the critics again, they do it for the money, to get them a conscious blahblah. Also here again, they (Ali and Bono) sticked in what they believe, taking large losses in the begin. That's why they moved production also to fair trade companies in China, but now try to go back to their original business plan, with help of Diesel.

    Will there ever be no hunger? Who knows. It's all about the money. If only we could stop cheap fabricating and support economies/build partnerships by placing orders there that would help much more then throwing just millions over the fence.

    To come back to Bono, if people say he actually doesn't give a s..t about Africa, listen to the 360 concert from Johannesburg where he was few times in tears taking about the continent.
  11. So, that new album.....

  12. That I still don't believe is being even close to being finished LOL

    At least Bono isn't being explicit in his campaigning in HIS LYRICS. IMAGINE IF HIS LYRICS INVOLVED HIS PLIGHT. UGH. IT COULD BE WORSE.
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