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U2 - Moment of Surrender
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No Line On The Horizon (2009)




  1. Didn't I say that I liked MoS live more than the album version?

    And Risto gets the idea why One is such a unique song.


  2. One over Streets? WOW....... Streets seems ageless whereas One seems a bit stale.
    I would prefer to see a Walk On/One snippet just as I would prefer Please with a SBS snippet.

  4. Good point.
    Even though Vanquish is an aussie, therefore he is allowed to make opinions out of bootlegs (since 360 is not getting there until late 2010, if it does at all)


  5. I think they're very similar songs (dark, prone to misinterpretation) and I enjoyed MOS very much live, as with One. Is MOS better live than One? No, I don't think so. It's not reaching out and grabbing you by the heart and insisting that you pay attention to every word of it.

    FWIW, I don't think the band are doing MOS any favours by using it as the closer. The audiences aren't sticking around for it and it's really sad to see the stadiums half empty by the time it's finished.
  6. Originally posted by sonia_lastrega:[..]

    FWIW, I don't think the band are doing MOS any favours by using it as the closer. The audiences aren't sticking around for it and it's really sad to see the stadiums half empty by the time it's finished.


    I agree with this totally, use it to close a first encore, maybe even try to segue it into Streets...that would interest me. The oh oh's into streets could work. End the show with Ultraviolet WOWY One 40
  7. Originally posted by Doc32:[..]

    I agree with this totally, use it to close a first encore, maybe even try to segue it into Streets...that would interest me. The oh oh's into streets could work. End the show with Ultraviolet WOWY One 40


    That would probably be a more audience-friendly closing sequence. From the current setlist choices, I'd quite like to see them segue from Stay to MOS to WOWY, then finish with Ultraviolet, Bad and maybe finish on Streets, just to go out on a high.


  8. This is ridiculous, any song will sound better when you hear it live in person.

    Ignoring live versions, Moment of Surrender simply doesn't have the lyrical depth or universality of One.
  9. Still matter of taste though so we can't criticise each other for having a different opinion.
  10. So a song is better when the lyrics have some kind of universality? Im now actually at a point that I just cant say which of the two is better.
  11. Originally posted by dieder:So a song is better when the lyrics have some kind of universality? Im now actually at a point that I just cant say which of the two is better.


    Universality is the way that people feel like the lyrics are reflected in their own life or experiences, so yeah, I think it does result in a better song. Songs specific to only the writer's experiences and life (imagine Bono penning a non-ironic tune called 'Man, It's Hard to Be a Mega-rich Rockstar') are not likely to go far.

    Universality in the lyrics is generally considered an important factor in the appeal of a song. If people can relate to the subject and theme, they're more likely to be emotionally affected by it. Consider the ubiquity of love songs, for instance. Everyone loves a love song, songs of betrayal and PAIN and heartbreak chart like stupid charting things every week.

    But, popularity isn't quality, and whether you can sing along with it isn't a marker of quality. If it was, then Barbie Girl would be a better song than We Call Upon the Author to Explain, and that shit just ain't right.

  12. This is ridiculous, any song will sound better when you hear it live in person.

    Ignoring live versions, Moment of Surrender simply doesn't have the lyrical depth or universality of One.


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