1. Originally posted by WikipediaMainstream is, generally, the common current of thought of the majority. However in the reality, the mainstream is far from cohesive; rather the concept is often considered a cultural construct. It is a term most often applied in the arts (i.e., music, literature, and performance). This includes:

    - something that is available to the general public;
    - something that has ties to corporate or commercial entities.

    As such, the mainstream includes all popular culture, typically disseminated by mass media. The opposite of the mainstream are subcultures, countercultures, cult followings, underground cultures and (in fiction) genre. Additionally, mainstream is sometimes a codeword used for an actual ethnocentric or hegemonic subculture point of view, especially when delivered in a culture war speech. It is often used as a pejorative term. In the United States, mainline churches are sometimes referred to synonymously as "mainstream."[1][2]
  2. U2 aren't fucking mainstream. No way.

    But they are fucking the mainstream


  3. If they were mainstream, Magnificent would have a much better debut.

    They were mainstream back in the 80s, not now.

    And I've never heard people talk about them ever, not once, neither at uni, on the train, or at work, or wherever, no one ever mentions them or their music.

    If you tell people you like U2 and they look at you strangely, it means they're not mainstream.

    Ironically many of the U2-bashers, use the 'mainstream' argument to attack the band. I was having a bit of an argument with my friend and he kept going on about how all U2 sounds the same etc, and pointed me to this ridiculous article.


  4. Originally posted by vanquish:[..]

    If they were mainstream, Magnificent would have a much better debut.

    They were mainstream back in the 80s, not now.

    And I've never heard people talk about them ever, not once, neither at uni, on the train, or at work, or wherever, no one ever mentions them or their music.

    If you tell people you like U2 and they look at you strangely, it means they're not mainstream.

    Ironically many of the U2-bashers, use the 'mainstream' argument to attack the band. I was having a bit of an argument with my friend and he kept going on about how all U2 sounds the same etc, and pointed me to this ridiculous article.


    More shite here: http://www.oldskool.org/archives/u2sucks
    http://thenamelessthing.com/node/23


  5. Of that first page:

    It's nothing to do with talent." The Beatles, he claims "had a value which will last forever."


    Says he of the band which were the biggest piece of shit since the last biggest piece of shit.

    The Beatles never had talent (and the remaining members still don't), and their value lasted a few minutes with me. It's like U2, people say U2 are crap and gone weird because they took a different direction after 1987. So what - has he not heard of change and evolution? Obviously not because everything after Sgt Peppers sucked hard. A bit like Pink Floyd's last album - which was a shame.

    Same with U2 - the music became a bit generic and predictable after ATYCLB. With No Line, it has definitely gone back to unusual and different. The stuff after 1987 is some of the best music ever written (All I Want Is You, Heartland, God Part II, So Cruel, Where The Streets Have No Name, In God's Country, Zooropa, Last Night On Earth, North and South of The River...), and before 2000.

    It's a shame real rock and roll isn't seen as interesting. Some of the R&B and pop over the last 50 years has been very interesting and very good, some of it known as the highest-selling recordings of all time - yet in the last few years it seems people from talent shows, manufactured pop, love hate annoyance fuckwits of the radio stations shoving it down the poor bastard's throats and the magic of auto tune are taking over music.

    As was said at the RRHoF - ''There wouldn't be a U2...the way things in the music industry are right now. That's a fact.''. No truer words spoken.
  6. ^^ I guess Bono sums it up here very well!

    As someone pointed out earlier, U2 are and were only really mainstream / a bit predictable with ATYCLB and HTDAAB. They were not mainstream but a commercial success with The Joshua Tree and greatly re-defined themselves and developed in the 90s.

    And although Bono once (often?!) stated (if I am not completely messing up here) that they of course wanna be on top of the charts, I think that they really do as little compromises to trying to reach that as possible, seeing songs like Crazy or Magnificent being on the record together with Get On Your Boots or Fez-Being Born. I think Get On Your Boots was a brave decision to choose as first single coz you would know that it's not a song you straight away like or nod your head to, you know.
    Plus, I don't think that there's anything wrong with making radio-mainstream music, as long as the songs come with honesty. Remember, there're a lot more cheesier lyrics out there . And hell, if Bono and the lads now favor more pop-like music and tend to write songs that sound rather "mainstream", what the heck. They still got also songs like Breathe, Cedars or Moment Of Surrender.
    Sorry for being off topic!
  7. How do you guys mean, Magnificent doesn't score in the charts? It's in the top lists in every country, there are dozens of artists who can only dream about that. In that sense we U2 fans are spoiled I guess. A song that sticks at #30 in the charts aint bad.

    And they are mainstream rock music, wether you like it or not.
  8. Originally posted by markp91:How do you guys mean, Magnificent doesn't score in the charts? It's in the top lists in every country, there are dozens of artists who can only dream about that. In that sense we U2 fans are spoiled I guess. A song that sticks at #30 in the charts aint bad.

    And they are mainstream rock music, wether you like it or not.


    I've heard Magnificent twice on radio. I guess it's not even got into the charts here.

    Mainstream rock doesn't necessarily mean general mainstream.
  9. People who are saying U2 are mainsteam are not sound imo.
  10. It has been going on for too long. I think we have other threads too discuss this further.

    Lets go back ontopic now...