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im very excited where can i dl this, can i have a direct link to the u2torrents one plz, im not lazy

Originally posted by drewhiggins:[..]

Not the point. I thought you don't charge for bootlegs...it had better be for mailing and print only, otherwise that's ridiculous.

It's time to start charging for my burning of bootlegs, and for the rest of the U2 trading community as well.

2.1 euros and $3.70 Australian dollars.

i think this is ridiculous. Genesis has made a cracking job of this and if I were him i'd be thinking why the hell did I bother when there are so many ignorant/ungrateful ppl on here. Why should he foot the bill for all his hard work and effort and pay for the postage and dvds that he's sent out. As he has stated all along this is free to download but there was also a choice for members to purchase the dvd for cost price and I'm glad I took that option as the finished product is excellent. Hell I wish I'd bought more as I don't have a dual layer dvd recorder.

The reason I didn't join a U2 forum for so long is because of how obsessive/stupid a lot of the fans are. I've been a fan since 82 and followed them round the world since 87 when i was 17 so i've met plenty of the aforementioned obsessives! why can't ppl just be grateful for the effort a fellow member has put in to try and give us a professionally produced gig??

Genesis thanks again and apologies that you have to keep justifying yourself to idiots!

Risto

15 years

Well afaik everything was worked out no need to call anyone idiots here.

Please ontopic!

drewhiggins

15 years

I don't appreciate being called an idiot.

Heard of constructive criticism?

Risto

15 years

On topic please

yeah

15 years

Originally posted by Genesis1966:[..]

are you serious?....

the other multicams have very slow edits, the focus on showing footage as opposed to editing in time!...the editing is here is not only better but it contains audio that as you say `is far better than anything else!`...the package is far better, presentation is better, and the technique to edit from various sources is also harder to do because of sync issues....
if you think other multicams are better then thats your opinion..personally i feel they all suffer and in fact can be quite boring due to poor sound and slow edits.
the dvd produced also has a decent balance of pace...tracks like boots, crazy, vertigo, mysterious ways have very quick edits, balanced out with slow edits to other tracks...dvd`s that have been edited here do not have that..they are one pace...this can make things a little boring to watch.

wild horses for courses ....

gen.

Yes, I am serious.

I've watched about half of the DVD so far and while I'd agree that the editing is done very well, as well as the presentation and the audio synching in parts, the picture quality partly is way below some other multi- or 1cam shows I've seen from this tour. Sometimes the picture is crystal clear - the next second suffers from heavy pixellation. Partly the picture is stable and sharp, partly it's shaky and blurry. That's probably because you've worked with youtube clips instead of complete and/ or original sources.

As you mentioned, this is all a matter of taste, I don't need this presentation thing or funky effects when the cam changes. What's important to me is to have the impression that I watch a flowing concert. That's something I never had due to the concept (different daylight, background, clothes from one second to the next) and the varying video quality.

So all in all, I think that this stuff is nice for people who just want a general impression of the tour. But there's no way it's anywhere near as good as an official DVD as it's presented.

I might not agree with the concept, the way you distributed this and might not keep the DVD - nevertheless, I appreciate the effort and the time and work you've spent on it.

germcevoy

15 years

Originally posted by yeah:[..]

Yes, I am serious.

I've watched about half of the DVD so far and while I'd agree that the editing is done very well, as well as the presentation and the audio synching in parts.
But the picture quality partly is way below some other multi- or 1cam shows I've seen from this tour. Sometimes the picture is crystal clear - the next second suffers from heavy pixellation. Partly the picture is stable and sharp, partly it's shaky and blurry. That's probably because you've worked with youtube clips instead of complete and/ or original sources.

As you mentioned, this is all a matter of taste, I don't need this presentation thing or funky effects when the cam changes. What's important to me is to have the impression that I watch a flowing concert. That's something I never had due to the concept (different daylight, background, clothes from one second to the next) and the varying video quality.

So all in all, I think that this stuff is nice for people who just want a general impression of the tour. But there's no way it's anywhere near as good as an official DVD as it's presented.

I might not agree with the concept, the way you distributed this and might not keep the DVD - nevertheless, I appreciate the effort and the time and work you've spent on it.

amen.

I tried the sample and this one and I definitely couldn't watch it. Thats no reflection on the efforts put in by all of those who contributed. Just not for me.

Same with U2 PURE. Looks great but some of the editing from night 1 and 2 left my blood boiling. Again though it was an excellent production. Mostly taste but just pickyness in my case

david2304

15 years

Originally posted by drewhiggins:I don't appreciate being called an idiot.

Heard of constructive criticism?

Constructive criticism? you haven't read this thread have you, otherwise you'd have know what the £2 charge was for but instead you just slagged the man off with it better be for this comment (if you'd read the thread you'd have known that it was for postage & materials).

as you don't appreciate being called an idiot i'm sure others don't appreciate having to justify themselves to you.

I'm back to the friendly band forums - ppl full of their own importance jump down each others throat here when all the fella has done is put in a lot of time and effort. frankly you deserve each other.

goodbye

Risto

15 years

Originally posted by david2304:[..]

Constructive criticism? you haven't read this thread have you, otherwise you'd have know what the £2 charge was for but instead you just slagged the man off with it better be for this comment (if you'd read the thread you'd have known that it was for postage & materials).

as you don't appreciate being called an idiot i'm sure others don't appreciate having to justify themselves to you.

I'm back to the friendly band forums - ppl full of their own importance jump down each others throat here when all the fella has done is put in a lot of time and effort. frankly you deserve each other.

goodbye

Sorry to hear that, but it seems you dont know us very well. Just browse around and you'll find we arent that bad

Anyway, i agree that there was put a lot of efforts in this dvd and i cant wait to see it. But some may have other opinions.

Genesis1966

15 years

Hi

despite the comments of `its not to my taste` or `shakey footage`...it was a pleasure to edit...and in all honesty i edited it for myself!.....its not meant to replace, compete or replicate any other efforts here...its just my take on a great show....a show i have watched at least a 100 times!!!! (password enter here in my sleep!!)

as for fans being `anal`...try the genesis fans!...i can promise you they really are hard work to please!!!...i converted some old vhs tapes to dvd and they all went mental!!!!...3sides live, the mama tour, knebworth...and the feedback was like i had raped Phil Collins!!!!...i just simply produced something that was not avaliable on dvd for them.....so i`m used to the constructive words...and destructive words!...all are helpful in trying to make it better.

As for the `shakey` footage `MLK` being a good example...i tried to use as much footage from sheffield that was avaliable...if willie williams had a b`day at every gig then it would have been easier!...some of the close-ups had to come from sheffield footage as it was unique to that gig...and as i`ve said alot of the don valley images were not great!...i did think about changing it but to be honest i liked the `raw` look of it..as it does give the appearence of `being in the crowd!`.....maybe i`ll re-edit it some day and produce a clean copy throughout.

just remember guys....one thing in life that is still free is `opinions`...and i respect them all, but dont `cut into eachother over it`...we are on the same side remember!!...if some do like it then thats fine, if others dont then that is fine also....the concept would have been very different if i could obtain clean footage from don valley...but the only thing that was clean was the superb soundtrack...the rest i had to work on.

has anybody tried the 5.1 mix?...there is some interesting stuff going on in the rears!...

i also have plans to edit the 2nd leg of the tour should a decent audio mix become avaliable from the shows,,,

for now i must get back to my job!....

thank you for all comments here, good or bad....and i hope you get some enjoyment from the dvd.

gen.

ps
i have re-edited a couple of songs and will post a link to rapidshare for these tracks shortly..sunday bloody sunday, beautiful day and a couple more...they will be uploaded in mpeg2 format and can be edited into your current show,,,at present you have a series of VTS.vob.files...right click on them and rename them to mpeg`s...this way you can edit them and add the additional tracks.

(to rename capture the dvd to your hard disc(dvd shrink), go into the folder and select `tools` from the explorer menu, folder options/view...and untick the box `hide extentions for known file types then simply rename the .vob to mpg or mpeg then open in any editing software that supports mpeg editing)

Risto

15 years

Thanks for all your efforts