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  1. Amen to that. And lol at what Joe said
    Originally posted by Mr_Trek:I know how you feel, we had a wedding here in Sweden not so long ago. Using the state's money to those kind of things just feels wrong, wrong, wrong.

    I wouldn't mind as much, although I'd still might get annoyed, if we had an elected head of state. I just think monarchies are outdated, and indeed were never justified - the only reason such people are in the positions they are is because their ancestors were bigger and nastier than their peers/enemies/whatever I can't confess to feeling that much in the way of an affiliation to my country at times, but partly because I don't feel all that English/British 'cause of my own personal heritage, i.e. half of my ancestry is Eastern Europe, Italy etc. Not saying any heritage is better than the other, but I really don't buy into it. And watching some of the people that got interviewed just made me cringe, like, talking about royalty as if they were there by divine providence. It's, urgh.

    I'm perfectly happy for the two of them as much as I am for any couple getting married, it's a big day for their lives, but so much of the buildup and the reality of it irks me. Commentators and the like celebrating this as being some kind of magical moment where the royalty have connected with the people 'cause Kate/Catherine is a 'commoner' - her family are fucking loaded, hardly like they've had it tough. And I'm not one who cares all that much for Diana either - not as a disrespect to the dead. Yes I cried when her funeral or whatever was broadcast, but I was 6? And just saw everyone else being sad so joined in lol. But, bah, I'll stop before I get carried away - I guess I've made my stance clear enough lol.

    What annoys me more than anything, aside from the gross inflation of the occasion's importance is that the government have used it to quietly propose new regulations to force new money-saving measures in the NHS. Wankers. Snide little wankers.
  2. Monarchy just doesn't belong in 2011. Especially in countries that see themselves as "civilized".
  3. Originally posted by WojBhoy:[..]
    Amen to that. And lol at what Joe said
    [..]
    I wouldn't mind as much, although I'd still might get annoyed, if we had an elected head of state. I just think monarchies are outdated, and indeed were never justified - the only reason such people are in the positions they are is because their ancestors were bigger and nastier than their peers/enemies/whatever I can't confess to feeling that much in the way of an affiliation to my country at times, but partly because I don't feel all that English/British 'cause of my own personal heritage, i.e. half of my ancestry is Eastern Europe, Italy etc. Not saying any heritage is better than the other, but I really don't buy into it. And watching some of the people that got interviewed just made me cringe, like, talking about royalty as if they were there by divine providence. It's, urgh.

    I'm perfectly happy for the two of them as much as I am for any couple getting married, it's a big day for their lives, but so much of the buildup and the reality of it irks me. Commentators and the like celebrating this as being some kind of magical moment where the royalty have connected with the people 'cause Kate/Catherine is a 'commoner' - her family are fucking loaded, hardly like they've had it tough. And I'm not one who cares all that much for Diana either - not as a disrespect to the dead. Yes I cried when her funeral or whatever was broadcast, but I was 6? And just saw everyone else being sad so joined in lol. But, bah, I'll stop before I get carried away - I guess I've made my stance clear enough lol.

    What annoys me more than anything, aside from the gross inflation of the occasion's importance is that the government have used it to quietly propose new regulations to force new money-saving measures in the NHS. Wankers. Snide little wankers.


    Monarchies are just weird when you think about it. It's kind of like they're cossetted, very expensive zoo animals. They aren't expected to do very much, and people like to stare at them and read ludicrous trivia about their lives.

    The one that really does my head in is Cambodia, which is the world's only communist country with a reigning monarch. Figure that one out.

  4. At one point, the commentary said 'these scenes are almost identical to how they would have been 100 years ago' or something like that, and my housemate and I thought 'yeah, that's half the problem, we're just stuck in the past'.
    Originally posted by sonia_lastrega:Monarchies are just weird when you think about it. It's kind of like they're cossetted, very expensive zoo animals. They aren't expected to do very much, and people like to stare at them and read ludicrous trivia about their lives.

    The one that really does my head in is Cambodia, which is the world's only communist country with a reigning monarch. Figure that one out.

    That is a bit of a mindfuck. I don't envy them for that zoo-like spectacle that they have become, but other than that, it's just old school now.
  5. it's something inconceivable, for me, that such a country, who's supposed to be the cradle of modern democracy, is still a monarchy .. same thing for the other countries as well.
    i find it a "little" contradictory


  6. That system they live in, one of clicked fingers and willing subordination - it just repulses me.
  7. Originally posted by clover68:it's something inconceivable, for me, that such a country, who's supposed to be the cradle of modern democracy, is still a monarchy .. same thing for the other countries as well.
    i find it a "little" contradictory

    Yeah, the only reasons I can envisage for monarchies being retained is a) money, e.g. tourism, because in fairness they bring in a sodload as I understand it and b) they're still an integral part of the class identity we have here, this inherent deference people have towards those in the supposedly higher social strata. I mean, I was discussing this the other day, if I met the Queen or other royalty, I pray to high heaven that I would have the guts to not submit to social pressure and bow etc. I didn't put them in the position they're in, so they can bugger off quite frankly. Chances are I'll never meet them, but like, yeah that's what I hope.
  9. Quote at the bottom of my U2start right now:

    "We make music you can have sex to"
    -Bono



    Can you imagine? "Youuu've gahhht to get-your-self-to-geth-er you got stuck in a mooooment..." going in the background? No thank you.
  10. Originally posted by EyesWithPrideB3:Quote at the bottom of my U2start right now:

    "We make music you can have sex to"
    -Bono



    Can you imagine? "Youuu've gahhht to get-your-self-to-geth-er you got stuck in a mooooment..." going in the background? No thank you.


    hahaha, classic!

    Well, Mysterious Ways should work better


  11. Yeah I'd reckon he's talking more AB thru Pop, but still... For every one song that works in this equation, I could name you three that would be utterly atrocious.

    That or he's still hung up on how Elevation is about sex. Seems so proud of that for some reason.
  12. I'm a declared Republican (NOT in the US-party sense, God forbid) too.

    No one should be given any more chances for having a healthy or rich life without (he, she or his parents) having deserved it on their own.
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