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  1. Originally posted by molang7:Don't agree with the red card given to the Australian player. Just proves that during this World Cup there are bad referees and worse referees!


    Yea, the refereeing is by far the most aggravating thing about the game.
    If only FIFA would act modern and like every other sport, defer controversial decisions to the video referee, the game would be so much better.

    Cause as it is, crap refereeing decisions seriously skew the whole tournament. Like Germany's loss to Serbia after the card crazy ref decided to send off Klose.

    In fact there's a good chance Italy wouldn't have won last time, if they didn't have that last minute penalty awarded to them (thanks to diving) against Australia in the round of 16 match.
  2. If you watch football regularly you would maybe appreciate that the standard of refereeing this tournament has been the best in a long time. Contact between players is allowed, close offsides are going in the strikers favor etc. We have to accept though that until refs use video replays there will always be that element of human error that will sway things from time to time. So far so good from the officials.
  3. Agree, as long there is no video support for the referee this will continue. And i also agree that the referee's are not that bad.

    Also if a team depends on the referee to win, then there is something wrong with your team or tactics. If you score the extra goal nobody cares about a decision of the referee.
  4. what a bullshit game, once again fuked over by the refs. fair enough give the penalty but why a red card???? sum ghanian bloke went studs up and only got a yellow card. wheres the consistency
  5. Kewell was sent off because he stopped a goal with his arm. If Ghana missed the resulting penalty where would the advantage be? Kewell made no attempt to get his head to the ball and off his arm it came. If it happened anywhere else on the pitch or in the box it would have ben a free kick/penalty with a yellow card. On the line though it has to be a red card.
  6. Originally posted by germcevoy:Kewell was sent off because he stopped a goal with his arm. If Ghana missed the resulting penalty where would the advantage be? Kewell made no attempt to get his head to the ball and off his arm it came. If it happened anywhere else on the pitch or in the box it would have ben a free kick/penalty with a yellow card. On the line though it has to be a red card.


    you're right
  7. Originally posted by germcevoy:Kewell was sent off because he stopped a goal with his arm. If Ghana missed the resulting penalty where would the advantage be? Kewell made no attempt to get his head to the ball and off his arm it came. If it happened anywhere else on the pitch or in the box it would have ben a free kick/penalty with a yellow card. On the line though it has to be a red card.


    Er, he hardly had time to head the ball, he turned and saw the ball coming towards him and tried to hit it with his chest, it bounced of his arm (not his hand), what's he meant to do, cut off his arm?

    It's ridiculous and seriously, you think a penalty isn't enough advantage? If they can't convert a penalty they don't deserve the goal.

    While, I agree he had to award the penalty, but the red card was a bit much - it wasn't intentional, completely accidental.

    And the whole, "oh we won't have video replays because we want to retain the human element' is stupid.

    AND they aren't exactly consistent about it either - for instance Zidane's headbutt last WC which the ref didn't see at all.

    I mean, doesn't anyone think it's ridiculous, that winning the game is nearly as much about skill as it is the luck of the refereeing decisions? How many matches this and last WC have been determined by poor ref decisions.
  8. Originally posted by vanquish:[..]

    Er, he hardly had time to head the ball, he turned and saw the ball coming towards him and tried to hit it with his chest, it bounced of his arm (not his hand), what's he meant to do, cut off his arm?

    It's ridiculous and seriously, you think a penalty isn't enough advantage?
    I agree they had to get the penalty, but the red card was a bit much - it wasn't intentional, completely accidental.


    an attempt on goal isn't fair advantage when a clear goal is prevented by a players arm. The term 'hand' ball covers the entire arm. Whether Kewell meant it or not or not, he had to go. Rules are rules and the ref got it correct.
  9. Originally posted by germcevoy:[..]

    an attempt on goal isn't fair advantage when a clear goal is prevented by a players arm. The term 'hand' ball covers the entire arm. Whether Kewell meant it or not or not, he had to go. Rules are rules and the ref got it correct.


    The problem with that line of thinking is, if Kewell had been a few inches to the left, it would have rebounded of his chest and nothing would be awarded. It should only be handball when it is clearly deliberate, not an involuntary, instinctive muscle movement, what's the difference between his chest being in the way, versus his upper arm?



  10. He could have given yellow imho. But he was in his right to give the red. Dont forget the referee did not have countless replays and 20 angles in slow motion.
  11. Originally posted by vanquish:[..]

    The problem with that line of thinking is, if Kewell had been a few inches to the left, it would have rebounded of his chest and nothing would be awarded. It should only be handball when it is clearly deliberate, not an involuntary, instinctive muscle movement, what's the difference between his chest being in the way, versus his upper arm?






    the difference is that ball of chest isnt against the rules. Nobody saying Kewell deliberately hand balles it. I have no doubt he didn't mean it but that changes nothing. Facts are facts and he prevented a clear goal via use of his hand. That oddence comes with a straight red and a penalty. Those are the rules and he was sent off. The ref can't be blamed.
  12. Originally posted by germcevoy:[..]

    the difference is that ball of chest isnt against the rules. Nobody saying Kewell deliberately hand balles it. I have no doubt he didn't mean it but that changes nothing. Facts are facts and he prevented a clear goal via use of his hand. That oddence comes with a straight red and a penalty. Those are the rules and he was sent off. The ref can't be blamed.


    But then that's just bloody pedantic, can't you see that? It's completely irrational, what's the practical difference besides what's stipulated in the rules, for all intents and purposes the part of the arm that was hit functioned identically to the torso, he didn't swing it out to block the ball.

    Give a penalty, but a penalty, a dismissal AND a suspension, for just being in the wrong place at the wrong time? It's a bit ridiculous IMHO, it's a good thing the justice system doesn't take pages from the FIFA Refeering book.

    What's even stupider is the fact that the Serbian Vidic only got off with a yellow against Germany for a clearly deliberate handball!
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