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  1. Originally posted by Mr_Trek:[..]

    Well, these parents weren't following the curriculum from what I understand, and they didn't have permission for homeschooling. And in Sweden teachers definitely don't fit your picture of teachers. Which I would think isn't 100% right, seems a bit too crazy.

    Look it up.
  2. I actually did. Some kids may be taken into care though, for example you can't be convicted for crime 'til you're 16 (your parents are responsible) (this is seven in the US I believe?), and no prison 'til you're 18, but if you're deep enough into it, you can be taken into care. Also maybe if you have parents that are criminals or alcohol addicts that can't raise you, and no relatives who can/want to take care of you, you can also be taken into care. But no, the the state doesn't kidnap people.

    I think you should study Sweden a bit more before you go crazy attacking Sweden. It's probably one of the freest country's and very good on many things. I learned a new interesting thing today. We were the first to have press freedom be part of the law. In 1766 it came into the constitution. I didn't know that.
  3. To be fair America didn't exist yet.

    And the gov can take kids here also in certain situations, along the same lines as the one you listed. I'm a bit of an expert on this for as you may recall I am studying to be a police officer, and here if the social services feel that there will be trouble, they often request police assistance.

    Last year, a few countys north of where I live, Michigan social services were doing a removal of a child, and one of the houses occupants came at the social worker with a knife. A local deputy was assisting, and responded appropriately , shooting the man. The investigation, showed that it was a text-book "Justified" police shooting.
  4. So, you kidnap kids too then And shoot people while doing it.
  5. I think most people ain't gonna have a problem with kids being taken away from parents who are alkies, addicts, or abusive, and if you try to stab a gov worker you should expect to be shot, if there is a cop present.
  6. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:I think most people ain't gonna have a problem with kids being taken away from parents who are alkies, addicts, or abusive, and if you try to stab a gov worker you should expect to be shot, if there is a cop present.

    Definitely. In Sweden you probably wouldn't be shot though, but you wouldn't succeed and you'd be punished.
  7. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:I think most people ain't gonna have a problem with kids being taken away from parents who are alkies, addicts, or abusive, and if you try to stab a gov worker you should expect to be shot, if there is a cop present.

    Well this is something to always consider. There is more than one way to look at something and anything that happens can be told in many ways,
    not necessarily based on facts or covering all of the facts. Just like this story you told us, the way you tell it makes the deputy the hero and the house occupant the bad guy...others could reverse this while telling the story.

    What you posted about Sweden is no different. Shouldn't get your facts from a radical or one sided facebook group. Specially when the facts are about a foreign country.
  8. In other news I have signed up for a public constitution reading next Monday. I'm one of those rare people who has no fear of public speaking.
  9. That's good. I like it too, but I do get nervous sometimes as well, but it's fun.
  10. Just always remember, your the guy in the room with the biggest balls.

    It ain't like any of them voluntered.
  11. The toughest speech I ever held was actually in school when we had writing a speech as a task in Swedish. It was a Thursday in January this year that I started writing about my then very ill, 93 years old grandfather. That same day was the day he died. Three weeks later I held that speech and I felt I really moved some people, it was also very important for me. I then held a similar speech after his funeral. That was tough, but I think I did well. And I know my grandfather would've been proud of me and he would've liked it. I hope that maybe some of my classmates will also remember something about him, at least how much I loved him. Memories are how people live on after they're dead.

    Pretty unrelated to politics, but I felt like saying that when we were talking speeches.
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