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  1. I make no false pretenses about knowing your political beliefs, because I don't care. I assure you I'm not a bitter man. My hatred of union runs very deep on account of one little fact. The UAW tried to kill my father in 1998 because he went against them on some issue (don't remember what), so once again, quit assuming you actually know anything about me.

    And having good health insurance is the reward for making good choices in life. At this time, I feel I don't deserve it, as I have done nothing to earn that right.

    I work on my terms. I'll find a job at the time of my choice. When I choose to work is not really any of your business.

  2. I was watching a program called 'Wanted' (Opsporing Verzocht) the other day on national television. During the show CCTV footage is shown and the police asks the audience to help solving the crimes.

    There was this story where an one man company had bought a €280.000,- touring car to win his money on his own. After a few years, he had almost paid the bus of when a group of Feyenoord supporters wanted to travel to Prague for an Europe League match.

    On their way to Prague the 40 men completely ruined the bus, leaving €20.000 damage. The owner of the company went home when the supporters were in the stadium, because he wanted no more risk.

    Two weeks later the supporters burnt down the building where the company was situated. The owner decided to hide for the men, telling only his close relatives that he lived about 100 km from Rotterdam for the next weeks. However, a few weeks later the men appeared again and set fire to his bus. The company went bankrupt and the owner lost everything he had.

    Now, is the club Feyenoord guilty for everything that has happened? Of course not. Feyenoord had nothing to do with the trip and the supporters didn't ask for permission or something.

    What I am trying to say is that your footage of 'union thugs' doesn't proof anything other than that there are some loose madmen.
  3. That is hardly a isolated incident.
  6. At that one rally, I can think of at least three crimes carried out by union thugs.

  7. But as I reasoned that is not an argument against unions. In fact, an union prevents the crimes shown in the video I didn't watch, because it protects workers against Chinese working conditions.
  8. Originally posted by fabian:[..]

    But as I reasoned that is not an argument against unions. In fact, an union prevents the crimes shown in the video I didn't watch, because it protects workers against Chinese working conditions.

    That makes no sense. So somehow, by preventing Third-world working conditions (which they don'), they prevent their members from commiting crimes, which evidently they still do, since we have it on tape?

    I'm not a genius by any means, but that arguement makes no sense.

  10. You've just shown that once again.

    I noticed that the President of the World Bank Jim Wolfhenson came out on Sept 12 or maybe Sept 13 and said you know the roots of this problem are in abject poverty, fanatics live off (this) - their fuel, fuel for their fanaticism is the abject poverty that they live in, so I put a challenge to us that perhaps the only way to really win this war, really win it, is to try and take away that poverty, that's my prayer.

    Third world working conditions drive people right into crime. Have some scientific proof, those videos will be boring over time.
  11. And while you were bashing the working class, I used my time and looked for some statistics...

    If union membership is required for a job, why is the trade union density (= union members / workers) not higher than twelve per cent in the United States?
  12. Originally posted by fabian:[..]

    You've just shown that once again.

    I noticed that the President of the World Bank Jim Wolfhenson came out on Sept 12 or maybe Sept 13 and said you know the roots of this problem are in abject poverty, fanatics live off (this) - their fuel, fuel for their fanaticism is the abject poverty that they live in, so I put a challenge to us that perhaps the only way to really win this war, really win it, is to try and take away that poverty, that's my prayer.

    Third world working conditions drive people right into crime. Have some scientific proof, those videos will be boring over time.

    Because working conditions in Indiana and North Carolina are definantly third-world.

    It never fails. When a lib cant think of anything else they will resort to insulting their foes intelect. I have the clarity to admit I'm not a genius. That does not mean I'm dumb. On the contrary, I'm widely regarded as being quite bright by those who actually know me.
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