1. Originally posted by fabian:[..]

    Let's review for a minute. I never said working conditions in Indiana and North Carolina are third world like. All I said was that bad conditions drive people into crime.

    It was American sociologist Robert Merton who said that people who cannot reach their life goals the legal way will eventually do it the illegal way.

    If you had a quick look at the pdf I presented you, you would have found a graph showing a correlation between low incomes and homicides. As far as I know unions make incomes higher. See where I am going?

    They make incomes higher for a select few. Overall employment rates suffer.
  2. Originally posted by fabian:[..]

    You did say it more or less. Actually, you just did.

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    In my mind the woking class consists of working people.

    You want my family history? Were about as working class as someone can get.
  3. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:[..]

    In the last week I have been called the following by liberals:

    Bastard, cocksucker, fucker, scab, motherfucker, teabagger, son of a bitch. I've been called a waste of humanity, told I should kill myself, and threatened with physical violence.

    Like I said, I will stop treating them like thugs when they stop acting like thugs.


    You need proof first before you can mention that those liberals said that.

  4. Sorry you can't believe your people would say such things, but the sad thing is they are hateful people who believe in free speech only when it appllys to them
  5. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:[..]

    Sorry you can't believe your people would say such things, but the sad thing is they are hateful people who believe in free speech only when it appllys to them

    Well I consider myself a liberal and I never talk like that and I'm not "hateful"...not even on the internet where I can be anonymous if needed. So don't generalize.
  6. Yep, its only fine to generalize about conservatives.
  7. Dont see Ali generalizing anywhere.

    Point is that it is very easy to put labels like conservatist, socialist, marxist, liberal on people. But it is very shortsighted as well. Life is not so clean that everything fits in a box. Imho those labels are only used to divide people.
  8. Originally posted by Risto:Dont see Ali generalizing anywhere.

    Point is that it is very easy to put labels like conservatist, socialist, marxist, liberal on people. But it is very shortsighted as well. Life is not so clean that everything fits in a box. Imho those labels are only used to divide people.

    You make that sound like that's a bad thing. Were not all the same, and anyone who says otherwise is a fool

  9. Having heard Chris Christie in his The Daily Show interview, he'd probably disagree with you. He pretty much agreed that all the labeling in US politics makes it hard to cooperate.