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  1. The goverment increased the retirement age by two years here, you heard something about riots in The Netherlands?


  2. It's democracy, ever heard of it?

    You're, if I remember right, unemployed and you don't go to college. You said that unemployement rate in your state is high. So, how come you don't do something spectacular and invent yourself a job?! Because you can't, it doesn't work that way. So, you have two options. To move to another state or just wait for your state to get better. Therefore, you depend upon your government.

  3. Originally posted by Mr_Trek:[..]

    Whoah, someone is generalizing a lot today.

    To generalize a bit more, in the U.S. people rely on charity to wipe their assess instead.


    Go to hell. Thats how Americans are. We help each other because we choose too. We dont need the governement to play middle man.
  4. Originally posted by Risto:[..]

    Why shouldnt we? Wish we do that here in Holland. Here we like being fucked by the government too much But I guess we are too spoiled to care.

    Unemployment here is lower than in the USA, so who are self-reliant now


    Thats because the Dutch are boring.
  5. Originally posted by Yogi:[..]

    It's democracy, ever heard of it?

    You're, if I remember right, unemployed and you don't go to college. You said that unemployement rate in your state is high. So, how come you don't do something spectacular and invent yourself a job?! Because you can't, it doesn't work that way. So, you have two options. To move to another state or just wait for your state to get better. Therefore, you depend upon your government.




    Government dosen't create jobs. All they can do is create a favoroable envoroment. And michigan fucked ourselves over. Check up the benefits packages of Detroit auto workers. Completely unsustainable.
  6. RIGHT TO WORK NOW!!!!
  7. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:[..]

    Go to hell. Thats how Americans are. We help each other because we choose too. We dont need the governement to play middle man.


    You seriously think charity is better than getting it from the state? With charity the poor will not exactly get an as equal amount of money as when the money's coming from the state. But oh, that's right, you don't give much of a shit about equality.
  8. Originally posted by Mr_Trek:[..]

    You seriously think charity is better than getting it from the state? With charity the poor will not exactly get an as equal amount of money as when the money's coming from the state. But oh, that's right, you don't give much of a shit about equality.


    Theres something inherently wrong, with taking money from someone to give it to someone else. If I want to give my money to crack addicts I can do it on my own, anyway. I believe it was Ben Franklin, a man well known for his charity who said the best thing to be done for the poor is to make them uncomfortable, in there poverty so they will improve themselves.
  9. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:[..]

    Theres something inherently wrong, with taking money from someone to give it to someone else. If I want to give my money to crack addicts I can do it on my own, anyway. I believe it was Ben Franklin, a man well known for his charity who said the best thing to be done for the poor is to make them uncomfortable, in there poverty so they will improve themselves.


    And how exactly are they going to get out of their poverty? You can't a job and you think they have a better chance?
  10. Originally posted by Mr_Trek:[..]

    And how exactly are they going to get out of their poverty? You can't a job and you think they have a better chance?


    I'm the kind of guy who belives in giving a hand-up, not a handout.

    "Give a man a fish, and you will feed him for a day. Teach him to fish, and hes covered for life"-Chinese proverb that I butchered.
  11. Feeling you should be entitled to something without having to give something in return is a classic symptom of narcisism. I for one am happy to in a country which has rejected the entitlement culture. November 2010 was good. November 2012 will be better.

    HERMAN CAIN 2012!!!!


    "The government which provides you with anything will take away everything including your dignity"-Thomas Jefferson.


  12. Oh.
    My.
    God.

    Then go to Antarctica and be on your own, without state and without government and see how it goes. Good luck.




    Funny. Every working man pays to his country. It's called tax. You get nothing for free from your country. You pay for everything. Don't be naive. Of course I expect my country to finance my health care and my college because they're taking certain amount of money from my salary every month.

    On the other side, when you live in USA, you also pay taxes and you still have to pay to hospital to fix your broken leg.



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