1. Indeed it does - EV just keeps screwing them up (in 2000).

  2. Wait, are both correct? Ok, I now have to google it and understand the difference. Thanks!
  3. second song from Moonlander
  4. I've listened to a lot of live versions of "Better Man" but I think overall, the "tight" versions from 2000 might be the best. Sure, there are a few classic performances since (Mexico 2003, Boston 2008, MSG 2010, and Lima 2011 come to mind) but these provide a refreshing alternative to the current live form of the song.
  5. What do you mean by "tight"?

    My favorite Better Man is the one from Arnhem 2006 - but of course I haven't listened to as many versions as you have!
  6. Tight in a good way...and, yes, there are some very good version from 2006. In many of the 2000 versions, EV sings the entire first first - you can hear the crowd singing too but not on their own.

    Also, the music doesn't slow down during the "Save It For Later" tags which keeps the energy going. I can appreciate the build up in the more recent versions but these 2000 versions are definitely worth a listen. Two I might recommend are Mansfield 1 and Pittsburgh (which Ed recommended to me).
  7. Originally posted by LikeASong:What do you mean by "tight"?

    My favorite Better Man is the one from Arnhem 2006 - but of course I haven't listened to as many versions as you have!

    Good boy, good boy
    The No Woman, No Cry snippet is amazing in that version.

    Just random but I always wonder why in the Pearl Jam thread a couple of lines of another song is called a tag, while when we talk about U2 we call it a snippet

    It is the same thing, right?
  8. Yes it is - I say snippet regarding to every artist, including PJ

    Matt - for me the crowd singing is a PLUS, not a low!
  9. Originally posted by bartajax:[..]

    Good boy, good boy
    The No Woman, No Cry snippet is amazing in that version.

    Just random but I always wonder why in the Pearl Jam thread a couple of lines of another song is called a tag, while when we talk about U2 we call it a snippet

    It is the same thing, right?

    I believe that they are the same - but I don't want to get into a debate about it. Didn't we "lose" a U2start member while arguing over this ambiguity a year or two ago?

    And, yes, there are some great 2006 performances of "Better Man." I'm only suggesting the 2000 versions as an a welcome alternative to them. Admittedly, I still prefer it when EV sings the intro - much like I prefer it when Bono sings the first few verses of ISHFWILF. I'm strictly speaking of listening to bootlegs, however, and not being in attendance at the actual show.
  10. hahahahahaha bobplaysthedrums

    I know I'm in the REAL minority here, but I love when the audience takes over the vocal duties. In fact, as a song writer and performer, it's my favorite part of any live show - when hundreds or thousands of voices sing as one. Gives me goosebumps every time. And when I am at the show, I do not sing to the singalongs, and just listen (with goosebumps and sometimes tears) to my audience fellas.
  11. As a performer, I can totally appreciate why you would feel that way.

    It's like when my students all eagerly answer a math problem that I've posed to them....

    ....um, no it's not.