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U2 - Songs Of Experience (2017)
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  1. Originally posted by ahn1991:[..]
    Numbers can tell you how many units of the album were sold and how many tickets were sold for the tour. While this doesn't explicitly say if an album was good or not, this is a concrete metric that has been shown to be a pretty good correlation of the consumer's general sentiment of a product. Any other metric that can't be quantified would be classified as an opinion, but numbers are hard facts.
    Yes, all the shit music from radio has very good numbers...
  2. Well define which radio stations you're talking about. Is there a radio station that takes into account the statistics of all songs regardless of genre and time of release? What about those oldies/classic rock stations playing all that shit music released by the likes of Pearl Jam, David Bowie, etc.?
  3. This might be a surprising revelation, but the radio plays much more than pop/rap music released in the past month.

    Anyhow, for the sake of not drifting further off topic, I think it's hilarious that you think Pop is somehow "objectively" good or even great while you are choosing to reject any metric that attempts to quantify the quality of a product.
  4. You try way too hard man
  5. So, about that new album huh? I think theyll release it in this year, my guess would be in the last part of 2016.
  6. The band isn't very talkative at the moment; that's a good sign. A producer just made a statement concerning the whole album, which is also a good sign (it means there is an album). So yes, I am also hoping for a 2016 release. Will it be fresh? Will it be good? We won't know until it's out there!
  7. Spice Girls sold at least 20mil copies per album, now that yes it's perfection indeed or beyond

    quantify the quality of a product
    what an awful statement related to what is supposed to be a form of art
  8. Originally posted by blueeyedboy:They've already done the b-side album. Just get all the 45's from Joshua Tree. It doesnt get any better than that body of work...

    [..]


    I know, I was kidding because he said Songs of Leave Behind
  9. Until the album is there, we could say a million things in forehand. But it's good to know they have focus and are working on an album. My personal hope is that the cool distorded sound leak from Edge is giving away a good album riff. One can dream?
    I'm not worried at all that the band will lose their magic, they still have it. Look for it, it's only changed into something more subtile for me.
  10. Originally posted by ahn1991:[..]
    Numbers can tell you how many units of the album were sold and how many tickets were sold for the tour. While this doesn't explicitly say if an album was good or not, this is a concrete metric that has been shown to be a pretty good correlation of the consumer's general sentiment of a product. Any other metric that can't be quantified would be classified as an opinion, but numbers are hard facts.


    There are many more variables if you're really trying to quantify something's quality than just album sales and numbers. Such as context (did the music speak to the time it was released? To the people it was released to?), album quality (many including myself would argue that the album does indeed sound unfinished), the performance quality on tour (it's no secret that Bono's voice was failing hard that your), artistic choices apart from the music (the village people outfits in the discotheque video didn't make too many people happy), expectations vs reality (after the greatness of ZooTV, maybe people were hoping for U2 to either stick with that aesthetic or go straight to the ATYCLB "back to basics" approach) etc etc. It's also arguable that Pop didn't have any straight up radio hits either, it was a deeper album.

    Van Gogh didn't sell any of his paintings before he died, he was poor as hell. It was his sister who made everyone realize after the fact how great an artist he was. Point is, when it comes down to art being a subjective medium, numbers don't mean shit when it comes to artistic quality. Quality of recording, concert, etc, of course. But what you're talking about? Saying that the numbers speak to Pop's quality? No.
  11. Originally posted by Soundwall:Until the album is there, we could say a million things in forehand. But it's good to know they have focus and are working on an album. My personal hope is that the cool distorded sound leak from Edge is giving away a good album riff. One can dream?
    I'm not worried at all that the band will lose their magic, they still have it. Look for it, it's only changed into something more subtile for me.
    What are you referring to here... the clip from the Fender video? If so yes, that did get me excited. Great riff with a raging guitar sound... we need more of that.

    Still arbitrarily expecting September 2016.
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