1. Originally posted by bartajax:Don't think a new release will be together with Apple, I don't expect Apple to touch U2 anytime soon after what happened during SOI. Also I find it kinda strange to see a new Apple way of listening to music while I thought U2 and Apple would do something together to create ''an experience'' surrounding the music as Bono said it.

    I just hope they will let go of the ''we need a hit song'' way and just make whatever they want to make, the charts are broken and good music is something you need to searchfor nowadays. I'm fine with that, I rather have a great U2 album like Zooropa or Pop than a album full of cheesy radio-friendly songs like ATYCLB. You can't please everyone and the changes of getting a bunch of new fans from an album aren't that big anymore even if they create a new Achtung Baby or Joshua Tree it probably won't blow people away like it did back then.
    Let me tell you that Apple has definitely been in touch with U2. In fact, every night the live stream section comes from an iPhone 6 (Plus?) so you better believe Apple and U2 have tied the knot.
  2. It's all relationships anyway. Guy Oseary is a primary investor in Meerkat, hence the choice for Meerkat instead of Periscope etc.
  3. Originally posted by ahn1991:[..]
    Let me tell you that Apple has definitely been in touch with U2. In fact, every night the live stream section comes from an iPhone 6 (Plus?) so you better believe Apple and U2 have tied the knot.
    But do you think they (Apple) will go all out again and release a U2 album out of the blue? Or something special regarding U2?
    I think it would be a kinda stupid move for Apple to remind people of the ''privacy invading debacle'' of SOI.
  4. People call it a "debacle" but the numbers don't lie. Sales of past U2 albums on iTunes skyrocketed after the release, so no matter how loudly the newspapers will try to tell you that U2 is forcing themselves into everyone's devices, the truth is that you, your neighbor, and their mother is probably buying a U2 album via iTunes anyways. U2 might actually be put into promos for the new Apple Music service. Technically, Bono is still the face of every artist on iTunes.

    All these things considered, I would still call the release a huge success. The only people who would consider it to be a debacle are those who are against the idea of receiving free things and that's usually fair grounds to dismiss their opinion anyways. I will agree that Apple and U2 may not pair for the next release, simply because from a business perspective there's no need for them to "re-announce" their partnership.
  5. Originally posted by ahn1991:People call it a "debacle" but the numbers don't lie. Sales of past U2 albums on iTunes skyrocketed after the release, so no matter how loudly the newspapers will try to tell you that U2 is forcing themselves into everyone's devices, the truth is that you, your neighbor, and their mother is probably buying a U2 album via iTunes anyways. U2 might actually be put into promos for the new Apple Music service. Technically, Bono is still the face of every artist on iTunes.

    All these things considered, I would still call the release a huge success. The only people who would consider it to be a debacle are those who are against the idea of receiving free things and that's usually fair grounds to dismiss their opinion anyways. I will agree that Apple and U2 may not pair for the next release, simply because from a business perspective there's no need for them to "re-announce" their partnership.
    I agree. They should just not have pushed it into everone's iTunes, but just give people the option to download the album for free. Huge deal.
  6. I think the "pushing it onto everyone's iTunes" is an error on Apple's part. The way they probably registered it as "free" is by making a note that all accounts had "purchased" it rather than listing it as a product for $0.00.
  7. Originally posted by ahn1991:People call it a "debacle" but the numbers don't lie. Sales of past U2 albums on iTunes skyrocketed after the release, so no matter how loudly the newspapers will try to tell you that U2 is forcing themselves into everyone's devices, the truth is that you, your neighbor, and their mother is probably buying a U2 album via iTunes anyways. U2 might actually be put into promos for the new Apple Music service. Technically, Bono is still the face of every artist on iTunes.

    All these things considered, I would still call the release a huge success. The only people who would consider it to be a debacle are those who are against the idea of receiving free things and that's usually fair grounds to dismiss their opinion anyways. I will agree that Apple and U2 may not pair for the next release, simply because from a business perspective there's no need for them to "re-announce" their partnership.
    Debacle for Apple, not for U2 For U2 it was a succes but Apple got a lot of criticism too and I don't think they want to remind people of that, which is what will happen if they will do another big project with U2.
  8. Most people with accounts have a default setting that automatically downloads purchased material.

    But I still don't think it was a debacle for anyone. Increased purchases on iTunes obviously benefits U2, but it also hugely benefits Apple. The fact that people purchased these albums from iTunes when they could have gotten it from Amazon or even streamed them for free with Spotify shows that it was truly a huge success. Plus, as big as the Apple-U2 partnership was, both groups are so big in and of themselves that nobody will really be able to use that as a talking point against either of them. I mean, if anyone does, all somebody has to do is point to the massive revenue stream Apple and U2 are getting to shut them right up.
  9. Originally posted by ahn1991:Most people with accounts have a default setting that automatically downloads purchased material.

    But I still don't think it was a debacle for anyone. Increased purchases on iTunes obviously benefits U2, but it also hugely benefits Apple. The fact that people purchased these albums from iTunes when they could have gotten it from Amazon or even streamed them for free with Spotify shows that it was truly a huge success. Plus, as big as the Apple-U2 partnership was, both groups are so big in and of themselves that nobody will really be able to use that as a talking point against either of them. I mean, if anyone does, all somebody has to do is point to the massive revenue stream Apple and U2 are getting to shut them right up.
    With all the talk about privacy, the fear of big companies who know everything about you and the fact that people believe that U2 and Apple invaded their privacy I think that's something that worries Apple more than the small amount (Apple standards) of money they made with selling more U2 albums.

    I think Apple is more afraid of their reputation in the public eye than making a bit more money because of their collaboration with U2.
  10. I would argue with people that the release was a success and a smart move.

    Regarding the 5 year wait for SOI technically we were waiting five years for new U2 but not five years for the album we got.

    They did scrap a bunch of ideas that at least Bono mostly talked about and I'm not saying that is good, or bad.

    I hated the wait but was surprised when the album dropped and couldn't be happier with what we got.
  11. as a long time fan i have to agree with you
  12. I still really want to hear the album they did with Rick Rubin. Presumably that's the album that had Window in the Skies on it, along with All My Life and a few other oddballs. It seems like it was going to have a very crystalline U2 sound which would have been awesome. I love Window in the Skies.