1. Originally posted by stj0691My remaster sucked. I'll admit it. It sounds sleepy, shitty, muffled, etc. So I had to listen to the old files, just had to. I literally couldn't stand my own work. I apologize for the agony of listening to such crap. I shouldve live and let live with the original files, which regardless of bitrate are superior to my shameful audio fix up.

    Crikey, talk about beating yourself up over something fairly minor! Steve m'man, I think you're getting a little too hasty with your self-criticism lol, I didn't think there was anything particular wrong with it. Granted, I haven't had the chance to compare with the original boot (or rather, the one you had your wicked way with) but I really don't think it's bad enough to get yourself in a potted stew over! Credit where credit's due for giving it a go.



    Anywho, here's my review;

    1993-07-02 - Verona, Italy - Stadio Bentegodi

    Sound

    It seems that early reviewers aren't too keen on the sound here. I'm not particularly fussed, but it's definitely better than 3-star in my opinion, I think 3.5-4 is perfectly acceptable - hell, it's much clearer than the previous 2 BRT choices in my opinion which were generally agreed to be 3-stars. That's not to say I think it's wonderful - my bones of contention lie mainly in the way the sound seems to fluctuate to and fro, aswell as seeming fairly distant, not to mention the manner in which it seems to "fart" when the bass gets too much, and hence this isn't the most enjoyable in terms of a listening experience...that said, I've sat through far worse. The band are all audible and the crowd come into their own when you expect them to, e.g. the B-stage set, Bad, Pride etc. Not amazing, but certainly not crap.

    Performance

    Hmm. In comparison to more standout shows, this doesn't really match them any of them for mindboggling exhiliration. I think the release of Zooropa came slightly too late for this show, because by this point it seemed that the band and the ZooTV spectacle - Bono in particular - was losing momentum, what with it having been the best part of a year and some since the release of Achtung Baby, and it seems that the energy was dwindling from all and sundry. Although I'm sure that, had I been at the Stadio Bentegodi that night, I may have a slightly differing opinion but as a bootleg, everything seems fairly innane, especially on a ZooTV scale. Compare this to the true Zooropa shows, the early incarnations of the Outdoor Broadcast shows (e.g. 1992-04-21 Tacoma or 1992-08-12 East Rutherford) or some of the 2nd leg European gigs (1992-06-04 Dortmund, 1992-06-11 Stockholm or 1992-05-07 Paris spring to mind) and this really is miles behind - everything's fairly innane, dare I say a bit flat? I hate to be a bore, but unlike many, I'm not a fan of Larry's 'karaoke' moments during the tour, and I can't really make any exceptions for this. 'Tis clear why he's only really a backing singer at most...my personal highlight of the show has to go to the audience during the Confessionals when someone (on the screen) says something and the crowd all shout out "Va fan Culo" or "Vaffanculo" ("Go fuck yourself" and "fuck off" respectably). The encore was probably the pick of the setlist - fun version of Desire, although MacPhisto does really make a meal of the refrain (as ever). That said, I did enjoy his appearance. Ultra Violet never really benefitted from his delivery, but the rest of the encore was always good, excuse the pun, with or without him, and in this case, I thought Love Is Blindness was as epic as ever - loved Edge's little melody part just after the solo, even though it was oh so shortlived. Encore apart, nothing really grabbed me as being of particular note.*

    Overall

    I don't think there's much to add, I'm afraid - decent (if not incredible) soundquality and a fairly bog-standard performance from the band. Prior to the encore, Bono just seems to be reaching out for that something to really liven up proceedings, and it shows.

    A fairly solid, middle-of-the-road 6/10, for me.

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    (*Ooh, one last thing, no WGRYWH )
  2. Originally posted by WojBhoy[..]
    not to mention the manner in which it seems to "fart" when the bass gets too much,




    That's the perfect way of putting it! I wish I had have thought of that.
  3. 1993-07-02 - Verona, Italy - Stadio Bentegodi


    Sound

    Despite the hype, I wasn’t really grabbed by the sound quality of the gig. In all fairness, it was better than the 3 star boots we have been treated over the last 6 weeks, but this recording still had a flat feel to it. The band in some areas sounded faint, especially Bono, and in others they were quite over powering, The Bass for instance. Ground was recovered however with the not to distant nor overpowering audience and the equality in which all parts of the bootleg came across. I therefore come to the conclusion that it was a good listen, the best one we have had since Caspers TUF boot.

    Performance

    Far from the best Zoo TV I’ve heard, the band did the Job, delivered to goods to the paying Italian public, but that was about as far as it went. The set, though different, had lost the climatic ending it had before the first encore, Streets and Pride pushed back for ISHFWILF and ‘Stand by Me’.

    After and average start with the first set, to boot began to show its charms with the Encore. Desire was a welcome surprise, and in-between the rather confusing Mr Macphisto phone call, UltraViolet led the way for a great With or Without You (especially with the cool sounding intro).

    Sound : 6.5/10

    Performance: 7/10

    Overall: 7/10
  4. I can't argue with Harry and Daley's reviews. They are very much in line with my own assessment. Just a truly stock standard performance. It's already gone from my iPod.
  5. I can tell you all what the problem with this gig was. Too many shows playing the exact same songs (over 120 at this point?). Whereas the early 93 gigs were excellent with that nervous energy and Macphisto only finding out who he was, the gigs too a dip then levelled out at ok (just like this gig). It wasnt until the Zooropa material came into the sets that the shows began to lift again and the band sounded more upbeat and the better performances came to light and it remained this way right to the end of the tour as more and more new material made it into the set. This gig and others like it were just flat. Not bad but just flat and my reasons above make sense of that I reckon.

    on a more positive note, My Girl is one of the best snippets to grace a U2 set and When Love. . . Is a fun little number when played Zoo style. Hilight for me was Edge's little guitar outtro to Love Is Blindness. Never heard that before. I'll add more thoughts about the recording etc when i'm at home. Can only type so much on a mobile
  6. my remaster killed it.....feck

    i think i realized where the lossy sound came from,.....damn aac format in itunes.
  7. Originally posted by stj0691Sound

    My remaster sucked. I'll admit it. It sounds sleepy, shitty, muffled, etc. So I had to listen to the old files, just had to. I literally couldn't stand my own work. I apologize for the agony of listening to such crap. I shouldve live and let live with the original files, which regardless of bitrate are superior to my shameful audio fix up.

    my remaster 5/10, old files 10/10
    Man, i've had this bootleg for years and the old files were NOT ten/ten. Your remaster was just , but you don't have to commit suicide. No one was going to blame you, aminly because not that many people had listened to the originals Anyway, it's quite true. The original files, which I still own, are quite more crispy and louder than the remastered ones, but... No worries
  8. i'll re-encode the untouched lossless files next week and upload them
  9. Originally posted by stj0691my remaster killed it.....feck

    i think i realized where the lossy sound came from,.....damn aac format in itunes.

    Dude, you really are beating yourself up over nothing (nearly put 'off' and that would have gone down like a sack of shit ), I don't think anyone's making a criticism of you and even if that is/were the case, is it that much of something to fret about? I have loads of respect for you for being willing to put your work up as part of the assessment for a BRT review, and hey, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but no worries mate!
  10. uh-oh........... guys I'm soooooooooooooooo sorry. I forgot about the Round Table . I'll give it a listen tonight, then another tommorrow. It'll be coming on Wedensday (hopefully)
  11. Originally posted by U2Nickuh-oh........... guys I'm soooooooooooooooo sorry. I forgot about the Round Table . I'll give it a listen tonight, then another tommorrow. It'll be coming on Wedensday (hopefully)

    If you'd kept your mouth shut, I don't think anyone would have made anything of it

    Only kidding mate, remember we have a whole week to DL and then a whole week to post (up until Sunday night), so there's plenty of time. I just took the time out to review now because I've got a fairly busy week ahead and wouldn't really have much time to do it otherwise
  12. Originally posted by WojBhoy[..]
    If you'd kept your mouth shut, I don't think anyone would have made anything of it

    Only kidding mate, remember we have a whole week to DL and then a whole week to post (up until Sunday night), so there's plenty of time. I just took the time out to review now because I've got a fairly busy week ahead and wouldn't really have much time to do it otherwise


    I should have listened to it last week, seeing how this would put off th school work I'm doing this week