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  1. Originally posted by molang7:[..]

    I completely agree with you Yeah. Its horrible that it has taken this long for either a black man or women to be seriously considered for such a high position in office. It should not have taken well over 200 years for this to happen. My point is that I'm just so excited that its finally going to happen.


    Still a LOT of racism, fear and xenophobia in the world. Saw some frightening T.V. grabs from average Americans in the southern states on the news this evening.
  2. Originally posted by aussiemofo:[..]

    Still a LOT of racism, fear and xenophobia in the world. Saw some frightening T.V. grabs from average Americans in the southern states on the news this evening.


    Clips from the South scare us all....
  3. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:[..]

    Those pols have a 3 % margin of erro in either direction, and it has been proven they poll more dems than repubs. Therefore I ignore them.


    No offense Aaron, but this is hilarious. Do you think the first question of the poll is "What party are you affiliated with?" and if they answer "Republican" the pollsters say "You're free to go!" Perhaps they poll more Dems than Repubs is because more people are voting Democrat.....

  4. I can't help but think of that Borat gag where he played a small set in a redneck club...


  5. Oh geez...how scary was that!?
  7. Okay, I promised Juraj and Ale to tell why I want that Drugs are legalized. I must say; it might be just a Dutch problem, so a lot of you might not give a shit, but anyway:

    5 reasons why drugs should be legal

    1. It costs governements millions of dollars/euros/other money to fight the drugsdealers. WIth the legislation of drugs these costs would dissapear. At some point, somewhere in history, the American gouvernement decided to help Columbia fight the drugsdealers by giving Columbia 7 milliard dollar (!). A reaction of the American professor in economics Robert J. Barro: 'Legalize drugs and they are out of business overnight'. In other words: if drugs would be legalized the worth of the drugs would become very low and the drugsdealers would leave the drugssector. This means less violation and crimes.

    2. It would make people healthier. I can hear you guys think: 'Has he lost his mind?'
    But honestly, if drugs are legalized the governement would be able to check the drugs and only sell the good, quality drugs. The governement would also be able to check how much every person buys and IF a person buys to much, there could be a company who checks if he isn't addicted. It would make using drugs safier.

    3. As some of you might know there are a lot of foreign people coming to Holland to use drugs without being caught and prisoned. They think. If you import drugs into Holland you will be prisoned and that means that our prisons are filling up with (IMO innocent) people. Half of the dutch prisons all filled with drugs-related crimes. As the boss of the court of Maastricht, Mr. Peter Paul Lampe, says: 'I think we should admit that drugs, just like Alcohol, isn't fightable with the law. The fight against drugs annoys the entire court. We don't have time for other cases. There are some really big cases among those.' Our courts have to spend to much time, energie and money in the fight against drugs. Legalizing would mean they have time for murder, violation and other cases again.

    4. The ammount of addicted people in Holland probably wouldn't raise. Even tough you don't get punished here if you use drugs we still have the European average of addicted people. 1,6 people per 1000 in Holland is addicted. In the USA it's a lot higher. That's because our governement gives good information on the subject drugs. We have magazines, internetsites and even lessons on school where they teach us the danger of drugs. In the USA they just say it's forbidden, but nothing more. Drugs get a 'secret status', people don't know what they do. In Holland everyone knows which drugs are dangerous and which not.

    5. And last but not least. Alcohol and Sigarettes are legal, so why not Drugs? Too much alcohol is just as dangerous, maybe even more dangerous, than a bit of drugs. I think everyone must have a choice themselves and I think that a lot of people will learn, by trying, that drugs aren't that fun.

    It might sound like a weird idea, and I know that a lot of you won't agree, but especially for us here in Holland it would be THE solution to empty our prisons and to fight the drugsdealers.

    I hope you liked reading it
  8. weird people indeed

    no, seriously, some of your ideas were good People like to do what's forbidden, so if drugs were legallized they would lose their 'spell' for those who take it as fun and adrenaline...or whatever

    but I didn't get the 'government selling good and quality drugs' point...it's just..erm..weird to me


    btw what mark did you get for it?
  9. Originally posted by yuri31:weird people indeed

    no, seriously, some of your ideas were good People like to do what's forbidden, so if drugs were legallized they would lose their 'spell' for those who take it as fun and adrenaline...or whatever

    but I didn't get the 'government selling good and quality drugs' point...it's just..erm..weird to me


    btw what mark did you get for it?


    Thanks

    I meant that the governement can make a special company who investigate the drugs. They can say if certain drugs are good or not. If you buy it at an illegal dealer you might get 'rotten' drugs, drugs which can poison you. But if the governement checks them before selling them, then you know for sure that you won't get really sick of it.

    This was just a fast-written thing, the actual speech had 2 1/2 page. I had 6 out of 10...(I'm not really a good speaker in public )
  10. Originally posted by markp91:[..]

    Thanks

    I meant that the governement can make a special company who investigate the drugs. They can say if certain drugs are good or not. If you buy it at an illegal dealer you might get 'rotten' drugs, drugs which can poison you. But if the governement checks them before selling them, then you know for sure that you won't get really sick of it.


    sorry, but it's absolutely sure that if you regularly take drugs you're gonna get addicted. and yes, drugs poison you anyway
  11. Originally posted by yuri31:[..]

    sorry, but it's absolutely sure that if you regularly take drugs you're gonna get addicted. and yes, drugs poison you anyway


    That's true, but if you just use once you shouldn't get poisened. But indeed, if you use a few times per week then you will be poisoned after a while

    BUT that's why I think that the stores where the drugs are sold should inform the governement about how much they sell to every one. The governement can collect those information and if they see that someone took way to much drugs in one week, then they can send someone to have a look, and give him proffesional help with un-addicting.
  12. Originally posted by yuri31:[..]

    sorry, but it's absolutely sure that if you regularly take drugs you're gonna get addicted. and yes, drugs poison you anyway


    Agree the investigation just would keep a 'quality control', it wouldn't save people lives in a long term vision
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