General Politics Discussion Topic [closed]

Originally posted by notcomingdown:[..]

I'm a die hard Obama supporter, but I am always proud to be an American. I refuse to let those on the right proclaim their version of America definitive. I am very excited about tomorrow, but damn I'm nervous.

Originally posted by zooey:[..]

That's fine. I see where you're coming from. But the term 'guilt by association' comes to mind. Even if you don't agree with it, or fall into it, a stereotype exists in the world about what America has become. And some of the stereotype is true due to our ignorant and bullying government. Ask many non-Americans and they will assume that most Americans are The Ugly American of lore. And the fact that there are so many Ugly Americans on TV and in our government make it an embarassment, even if you don't belong in that group.

Like, if you go to a school that is filled with gang-bangers and drug dealers and partiers. You yourself may not be any of those things, but you may not be proud go to that school. You know what I mean?

Originally posted by LikeASong:Go vote, go vote, American lads.... Go vote, whether you vote for Obama (great ) or for McCain (just fine ), but VOTE

Originally posted by zooey:[..]

That's fine. I see where you're coming from. But the term 'guilt by association' comes to mind. Even if you don't agree with it, or fall into it, a stereotype exists in the world about what America has become. And some of the stereotype is true due to our ignorant and bullying government. Ask many non-Americans and they will assume that most Americans are The Ugly American of lore. And the fact that there are so many Ugly Americans on TV and in our government make it an embarassment, even if you don't belong in that group.

Like, if you go to a school that is filled with gang-bangers and drug dealers and partiers. You yourself may not be any of those things, but you may not be proud go to that school. You know what I mean?

Originally posted by aussiemofo:[..]

I 've actually been watching some great documentaries on both candidates. Both seem like decent, well-meaning people. But it's actually getting very personal now. People are voting for the man and not the policies. People are even voting who the media are telling them the person is. I saw some frightening vox pops of people in the southern states (don't mean to pigeon hole) who were pro-McCain. Nothing wrong with that, but their basis was highly racist.

Originally posted by notcomingdown:[..]

I think they both are decent guys. I think McCain is better than his campaign. He ironically has surrounded himself with many of the same people who smeared him and torpedoed his 2000 run. I think he will come out of this win or lose with class and dignity.

Originally posted by notcomingdown:[..]

I think they both are decent guys. I think McCain is better than his campaign. He ironically has surrounded himself with many of the same people who smeared him and torpedoed his 2000 run. I think he will come out of this win or lose with class and dignity.

Originally posted by notcomingdown:[..]

I think they both are decent guys. I think McCain is better than his campaign. He ironically has surrounded himself with many of the same people who smeared him and torpedoed his 2000 run. I think he will come out of this win or lose with class and dignity.

Originally posted by markp91:[..]

They're both better than the biggest joke of the century: Mr. George Bush. It won't be hard for them to do better.

Originally posted by MWSAH:[..]

His most stupid move was Palin. Methinks..