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  1. So what makes someone a casual fan? And why shouldn't he have the right to hear Pride, NYD, Streets, One and BD? Why should he be tortured with Red hill mining town?
  2. Originally posted by yeah:So what makes someone a casual fan? And why shouldn't he have the right to hear Pride, NYD, Streets, One and BD? Why should he be tortured with Red hill mining town?


    RHMT is a classic and I'm sure many U2 fans have heard that and love it because the Joshua Tree is like thier most popular album. They should get to hear them but say U2 have 7 or 8 'classics' then that still leaves room for 15 or 16 other songs that could be and should be varied more often than they are. A casual fan is probably someone that doesn't have about 5+ U2 albums for example or who only has a Best of CD. I'm not saying they don't deserve to hear those songs but Bono has always said thanks for sticking with us and thanking people for being loyal to U2 so he could reward the people with a rare song every now and then.
  3. Originally posted by u2spear:[..]

    RHMT is a classic and I'm sure many U2 fans have heard that and love it because the Joshua Tree is like thier most popular album. They should get to hear them but say U2 have 7 or 8 'classics' then that still leaves room for 15 or 16 other songs that could be and should be varied more often than they are. A casual fan is probably someone that doesn't have about 5+ U2 albums for example or who only has a Best of CD. I'm not saying they don't deserve to hear those songs but Bono has always said thanks for sticking with us and thanking people for being loyal to U2 so he could reward the people with a rare song every now and then.


    like Electrical Storm or Your Blue Room. Ultraviolet and The Unforgettable Fire..... Possibly Drowning man. Thats catering for us 'loyal' fans. There is no perfectly balanced setlist
  4. I'm with Yeah 100% on this one.

    We're die-hard fans and therefore we know every tour, every show, every setlist and every bootleg; that means that we might be tired of hearing the same songs. But the "casual" fans (who paid the same as you or me for the ticket, and who buys the same CD as you and me) want to hear the 5 or 7 songs they love, which can be "boring" (for you and me) classics as SBS, NYD, Streets, WOWY or Beautiful Day, or can be obscure and less-known songs as Acrobat, Like A Song, Tomorrow or Gone. One thing doesn't imply the other. And of course, casuals don't deserve less than us just because they're casuals, no way.
  5. To me the setlist is perfectly in balanse.
    Occasional fans get what they want; my dad doesnt know more then the well-known singles but had a brilliant night at Amsterdam 1...a pretty standard setlist that was. He totally loved it, knew a lot of songs. Vertigo, Pride, SBS, New Years Day, WOWY, ISHFWILF, Beautiful Day, Mysterious Ways, Where The Streets Have No Name...

    In the meantime us hardcore fans get TUF, Ultraviolet, Bad, MLK, Electrical Storm, Your Blue Room, Walk On, In A Little While...sounds like a great mix of songs to me...
  6. Originally posted by markp91:To me the setlist is perfectly in balanse.
    Occasional fans get what they want; my dad doesnt know more then the well-known singles but had a brilliant night at Amsterdam 1...a pretty standard setlist that was. He totally loved it, knew a lot of songs. Vertigo, Pride, SBS, New Years Day, WOWY, ISHFWILF, Beautiful Day, Mysterious Ways, Where The Streets Have No Name...

    In the meantime us hardcore fans get TUF, Ultraviolet, Bad, MLK, Electrical Storm, Your Blue Room, Walk On, In A Little While...sounds like a great mix of songs to me...



    Then it comes down to a matter of opinion. I would consider myself a hardcore fan, but have only had the opportunity to see the band once (so far). There are never big concerts close to where I live and my family wasn't able to afford trips to other provinces for concerts. That being said there are obscure favorites that I would have loved to hear (songs from Pop, Lemon, or Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me) in Toronto, but I was also dying to hear the "classics". I have to admit that I was a little bummed out that they didn't do "Pride".

    Also regarding your comment about what songs the casual fan gets and what ones the hardcore fans get is a little off. I mean who is to say that a casual fan loves and wants to hear all the songs you just listed? (The same goes for the "hardcore" fan). As I said, I consider myself a hardcore fan but going into the show in Toronto I would not have picked The Unforgettable Fire, MLK, or Your Blue Room as songs I really wanted to hear.

    I do agree though that there is a good mixture in the current setlist when it comes to new songs from the album, old favorites, newer favorites and some other "new" old songs. Sure I'd like to tweak it here and there, but who wouldn't? I mean ideally I would for U2 to stand under the claw and play for two days instead of two hours haha.
  7. Saw the NJ shows. Can't believe they didn't play Bad at least once.
  8. Originally posted by markp91:To me the setlist is perfectly in balanse.
    Occasional fans get what they want; my dad doesnt know more then the well-known singles but had a brilliant night at Amsterdam 1...a pretty standard setlist that was. He totally loved it, knew a lot of songs. Vertigo, Pride, SBS, New Years Day, WOWY, ISHFWILF, Beautiful Day, Mysterious Ways, Where The Streets Have No Name...

    In the meantime us hardcore fans get TUF, Ultraviolet, Bad, MLK, Electrical Storm, Your Blue Room, Walk On, In A Little While...sounds like a great mix of songs to me...



    I took my Dad to Cardiff, it was the first time he'd seen them since Live Aid. And the first time he heard NLOTH was in the car on the drive down. He said it was possibly the best show ever and I actually heard him gasp in awe when he realised they were playing MLK (TUF album I nicked from my Dad's collection is why I'm a fan).

    We all have our personal 'perfect' setlist, and it just isn't going to happen. Still, 7-9 songs from a new album and 7-9 'oldies' or 'anthems' (or whatever you want to call them), still leaves 5-10 spaces for rarities like Your Blue Room, Electrical Storm, Stay, In A Little While, Party Girl, etc. etc.

    Yes we'd love those 5-10 spots to change nightly, but as I'm sure has been mentioned numerous times, Bono struggles remembering the lyrics to the regulars in the setlist, so what are the chances of hearing Gloria/A Day Without Me/The Electric Co., without him messing up somewhere when he's only singing them every 5th-6th show?!? At some point you have to have a balance between quality of the show (i.e. Bono singing the rights words) against wow-factor of hearing something like Zooropa.
  9. I believe i said if they played Ultraviolet i didnt care if they played stuck on loop for the other 22 songs i'd be satisfied. So i can't complain at all
  10. I understand what u2spear is trying to say.At Giants Stadium night 1 (09.23.09) when the band played Your Blue Room, nobody I was with knew the song, but me.I told them the song was for me..the hardcore freaks....lol...they then went back to more popular songs.And they also played New Years Day on that night,the song that got me into the band when I was 16 in January 1983.I had my fix with that one rare tune (Your Blue Room).The band shut me up after playing that one.I loved the show,it was of course great.
  11. I also knew U2 listening to NYD

    About the setlist, I keep saying they have to change the encore
  12. Originally posted by u2spear:I'm saying that U2 are really only playing for 'casual fans' to become more popular and sell more records really, I think. I think that all the prices of tickets should be £30 or lower, its not like U2 need the money. Everyone should obviously get the same setlist if they go to the same show, regardless of price. Everyone who goes to see U2 deserves to see a few suprises and exitement with the songs that are played, a little variety. Some people go to see them 3 or 4 times in one leg. I want a change in the setlist and more variety, play new songs we haven't heard at all live, like Acrobat or Red Hill Mining Town.
    Sorry if it sounded like I was having a go at you.


    Don´t you think that by bringing back Ultra Violet, The Unforgettble Fire, debuting Your Blue Room and Electrical Storm they are playing safe??? They just have a huge catalogue and fans will always want more...also, I think, this is a stadium tour with less room for variation and so everything has to be really well rehearsed.....Let´s look at the bright side...there is more shuffling around than all the STADIUM tours they´ve done...they dropped Pride and Bullet The Blue Sky, NYD and many others are frequent but not 100% sure...just drop some of the ATYCLB stuff and bring a song from POP and one from Zooropa and an early days one.......woud be ideal...but i am happy with it because i know....we fans always want more. By the way....I think everyone wants surprises and stuff, but not a lot of people check setlists like us via twitter and stuff so, for casual fans, it is still surprising... and tickets are expensive, in my opinion, because they are cared of something like what happened to their finances during popmart ....... But that´s why i like smaller venues....
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