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  2. they'll drop ISHF Streets and WOWY......when they quit for good
  4. Originally posted by djrlewis:[..]

    Vertigo Tour is not a good comparison as it was poor in most other respects.

    The majority of the reasons for not mixing it up much have been discussed ad nauseam - Bono forgetting lyrics, video/lighting syncing, a common theme that they work out and like to perfect, most people only go to one show and would rather see a polished performance rather than a ropey one of an album track they've never heard of.
    Most fans are not like us (mind, I only go to one gig each tour, so I'm very happy with the setlist) and don't pour over this stuff. Time to accept that. These are not intimate fanclub only shows they're doing here.


    I respect your opinion,but why is Vertigo Tour not a good comparison ???????.I enjoyed the shows very much.The band played ONLY ARENAS in the USA.I would rather see a smaller show in an arena,than a big extravaganza,like PoP and 360.ZooTV started out in the USA in arenas first.Then went to the Outside Broadcasts.As I originally said,if you look at the set lists from Elevation and Vertigo tour,they changed alot.And fans like me who go to numerous shows dont want the SAME songs every night.Pearl Jam play totally different sets every night,as do Dave Matthews Band,and of course Bruce Springsteen (who just turned 60,and he still plays for 3 hours every night).I know the PoP tour was very popular in Europe,but it did not go over here in America.I dont need the band to dress up like the Village People,or for Bono to dress up like the Devil.Thank God on this tour he hasnt done that.But,having the spaceship talk before the encore is a little silly.Or as the English say,daft.It would be nice to see them in a smaller setting,like an arena without the spaceship.Dont you agree ???Also,I dont care what songs they play,just as long as they break it up,as they did for me both shows at Giants Stadium last week.I got to see Your Blue Room so I was very happy.By the way,great site.Love it.Cheers.


  5. Drop Unforgettable fire?They didnt play that song live for 20 years!!Ultra Violet they didnt perform live for 16 years.Why would you want those 2 classics dropped already???
  6. Originally posted by EDDMB:[..]

    I respect your opinion,but why is Vertigo Tour not a good comparison ???????.I enjoyed the shows very much.The band played ONLY ARENAS in the USA.I would rather see a smaller show in an arena,than a big extravaganza,like PoP and 360.ZooTV started out in the USA in arenas first.Then went to the Outside Broadcasts.As I originally said,if you look at the set lists from Elevation and Vertigo tour,they changed alot.And fans like me who go to numerous shows dont want the SAME songs every night.Pearl Jam play totally different sets every night,as do Dave Matthews Band,and of course Bruce Springsteen (who just turned 60,and he still plays for 3 hours every night).I know the PoP tour was very popular in Europe,but it did not go over here in America.I dont need the band to dress up like the Village People,or for Bono to dress up like the Devil.Thank God on this tour he hasnt done that.But,having the spaceship talk before the encore is a little silly.Or as the English say,daft.It would be nice to see them in a smaller setting,like an arena without the spaceship.Dont you agree ???Also,I dont care what songs they play,just as long as they break it up,as they did for me both shows at Giants Stadium last week.I got to see Your Blue Room so I was very happy.By the way,great site.Love it.Cheers.


    My reasons for dissing the Vertigo Tour mainly lie in two things - 1) it supported what to me was a very weak album and 2) they (the band) appeared very workmanlike for a lot of the time; just going through the motions.

    Those criticisms do not stand for this current tour. The album is very strong and the performances (on the whole) have an energy I haven't seen (bar a few notable exceptions) since '97.

    It's all a matter of taste though. For me things are mixed up more than enough and the show element is part of what I love a U2 tour for (which might also help to explain why Elevation and Vertigo Tours connected with me less).

    To my knowledge, none of the bands you mentioned put on a 'show' as such. That's one thing. Also, certainly the E-Street Band, are, by U2's own admission, far superior musicians than U2. They're capable of learning an 80-song list to be able to switch stuff around (that said, they don't mix it up as much as some think). U2 would not be able to do that.

    Glad you had a good time at your shows. I did at mine too. That's all that really matters at the end of the day

    PS - about the site - ta
  7. Originally posted by EDDMB:[..]

    I respect your opinion,but why is Vertigo Tour not a good comparison ???????.I enjoyed the shows very much.The band played ONLY ARENAS in the USA.I would rather see a smaller show in an arena,than a big extravaganza,like PoP and 360.ZooTV started out in the USA in arenas first.Then went to the Outside Broadcasts.As I originally said,if you look at the set lists from Elevation and Vertigo tour,they changed alot.And fans like me who go to numerous shows dont want the SAME songs every night.Pearl Jam play totally different sets every night,as do Dave Matthews Band,and of course Bruce Springsteen (who just turned 60,and he still plays for 3 hours every night).I know the PoP tour was very popular in Europe,but it did not go over here in America.I dont need the band to dress up like the Village People,or for Bono to dress up like the Devil.Thank God on this tour he hasnt done that.But,having the spaceship talk before the encore is a little silly.Or as the English say,daft.It would be nice to see them in a smaller setting,like an arena without the spaceship.Dont you agree ???Also,I dont care what songs they play,just as long as they break it up,as they did for me both shows at Giants Stadium last week.I got to see Your Blue Room so I was very happy.By the way,great site.Love it.Cheers.


    This is the problem alot of u2 fans who also like Bruce Springsteen and others have. They want them to be like Bruce and play a completely different set every night. They're not going to, they never have, and my money is on they never will. With u2 it's as much of a show as it is a rock n roll concert. They would rather play a smaller selection of songs and play them well then switch them up constantly and have the performance suffer. Bruce Springsteen i have seen 3 times this year and his performances haven't been up to the same level as the two U2 shows i saw. Although i do like his style of performing just as much. He also makes huge use of teleprompters and other aiding devices.

    Alot of people would agree with you that the best place to see u2 is in the arena setting, but they've been there the last two tours and i bet after they're done with the 360 tour they'll be back again. Once they're back inside i'm sure they'll shake it up more. All their stadium tours have had very little in terms of setlist variation. I'm glad they took it outside this tour though...great spectacles and easier more affordable tickets.

    That said i do agree with you that they could play for a longer time. They could add two or three more songs to the set every night and not have the show suffer in my opinion. When u only get to see them once or twice every 4 of 5 years...it'd be nice if they stayed a little longer
  8. Originally posted by EDDMB:[..]

    Drop Unforgettable fire?They didnt play that song live for 20 years!!Ultra Violet they didnt perform live for 16 years.Why would you want those 2 classics dropped already???


    The original poster of that comment was having a little brain storm and normal service has now, thankfully, been resumed
  9. you Americans love your Arenas. I've been reading a lot of 'I want Arena's, smaller gigs etc'. Part of me thinks its because parking is easier, hotdogs are more accessible etc but I could be wrong.

    Although I have not yet to attend a U2 gig in America, I do feel that those gigs don't match the romanticism of European shows (and other places). There seems to be a different mindset to gigs in Europe and in America. Europeans go to be part of the gig and Americans tend to go and 'watch' the gig. Until I attend an American gig these will remain theories.

    PS - I am heavily generalizing with my comments about Americans above and i'm well aware that there are many many die hards out there at those American gigs. But with 70 thousand at a gig each night . . .generalizing can kinda work. I also remember a certain American's face and words at Croke 2 when viewing a monster GA bounce down below. . .. . 'wow, it just isn't like this back home'
  10. Originally posted by Doc32:[..]
    That said i do agree with you that they could play for a longer time. They could add two or three more songs to the set every night and not have the show suffer in my opinion. When u only get to see them once or twice every 4 of 5 years...it'd be nice if they stayed a little longer


    That would be good
  11. Originally posted by germcevoy:you Americans love your Arenas. I've been reading a lot of 'I want Arena's, smaller gigs etc'. Part of me thinks its because parking is easier, hotdogs are more accessible etc but I could be wrong.

    Although I have not yet to attend a U2 gig in America, I do feel that those gigs don't match the romanticism of European shows (and other places). There seems to be a different mindset to gigs in Europe and in America. Europeans go to be part of the gig and Americans tend to go and 'watch' the gig. Until I attend an American gig these will remain theories.

    PS - I am heavily generalizing with my comments about Americans above and i'm well aware that there are many many die hards out there at those American gigs. But with 70 thousand at a gig each night . . .generalizing can kinda work. I also remember a certain American's face and words at Croke 2 when viewing a monster GA bounce down below. . .. . 'wow, it just isn't like this back home'


    Less room for casual central in the arenas
  12. Originally posted by germcevoy:you Americans love your Arenas. I've been reading a lot of 'I want Arena's, smaller gigs etc'. Part of me thinks its because parking is easier, hotdogs are more accessible etc but I could be wrong.

    Although I have not yet to attend a U2 gig in America, I do feel that those gigs don't match the romanticism of European shows (and other places). There seems to be a different mindset to gigs in Europe and in America. Europeans go to be part of the gig and Americans tend to go and 'watch' the gig. Until I attend an American gig these will remain theories.

    PS - I am heavily generalizing with my comments about Americans above and i'm well aware that there are many many die hards out there at those American gigs. But with 70 thousand at a gig each night . . .generalizing can kinda work. I also remember a certain American's face and words at Croke 2 when viewing a monster GA bounce down below. . .. . 'wow, it just isn't like this back home'


    I forgot to comment on the arena thing. It's something I never got. The weakest show I've seen by U2 was in an arena. I saw Muse twice - once in an arena and once at Wembley - no comparison. I think Gerard may have a point about 'experiencing' a gig and 'watching' a gig.

    Pretty certain the Claw/Spaceship wouldn't fit in any damn arena I know too...
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